Construction for the Chasunah Initiative hall in Lakewood – first reported about in 2022 – is moving along quickly.
The wedding hall building, being built on Oak Street, was donated by the Schron family in memory of Marta Schron, and the hall will be run by several Askonim and a committee.
As earlier reported, the hall itself will be hiring chefs, photographers, and everything else needed for the wedding, and it is expected to save at least $5,000-$7,000 on the wedding night alone.
“Our goal is to use this as a platform to launch other cost-efficient initiatives, such as for gowns, Sheitlach, Shabbos Sheva Brachos, jewelry and more. We want to bring down all costs across the board,” Askonim said.
Currently, halls in Lakewood are booking dates in September, and this new hall will ease up the demand in the market.
The hall is expected to be completed in several months.
there are plenty of potential Kallah’s in this town who have enough saved up for the down payment, can afford a regular wedding, and support a masmid…BUT there is no selection of boys at that age any more…and when they were younger they were passed over for the well known and well connected girls.
the real issue is the shidduch crisis, and it’s not a popular one, so it is being ignored.
all any wedding really needs is 2 witnesses, and a minyan for the brachos, and a lone klezmer, but you cannot have a wedding without a chosson!!!
the only way to get a chosson is by matching up the ages, because currently there is a parity of boys to girls at the same age.
wait a few years, and the grown older boys will be suggested girls a few years younger.
so, by choosing to remain silent, you are setting the stage for that in a few years time, when you may meet an older girl you can think, if only we all would have been smarter earlier.
well, for today’s 18 yr olds, that earlier is right now!
let’s all please save the class of ’24!
so maybe we need a chosson gemach?
There are many issues affecting the Kal. I hear you hurt, however it doesn’t make it easier for those that have a child getting married and is under heavy debt. Thank you to the Schron’s for this initiative.
How will this crisis ever get solved? You’ll never catch up because whenever a bochur gets married, a girl gets married too. The only answer is for guys to marry two wives! (Obviously with a heter meah rabanim)
There are a lot of shalom bayis issues with one wife imagine throwing in another wife? Not blaming either side but better marriage preparation is required in terms of communication skills before marriage. When this generation can handle communicating effectively and mastering parenthood then you might be able to suggest it. However, the wisdom of Rabbi Yehuda Hachassid understood all this and therefore forbid taking a second wife.
Rabbeinu Gershom
Maybe the girls can solve this crisis by themselves by not going out until 23, that way there will be a shortage of girls, and girls of all ages will be more in demand…
If girls will wait until 23, they won’t be on in marrying learning boys at that point. So yes you’ll resolve the issue for girls, however for those that remember, the Alte Mirrer Bochurim…
A friend of mine just told me yesterday that his Rebbitzen went to a shidduch meeting for the girls in her high school class that are still single, and 7 out of 9 still want a bochur who is learning, and they will not go out with a working bochur (They are 29). I am still waiting for a valid reason for why girls going in a freezer until 23 will not work…
Maybe because one is natural one is not. I have two brothers ages 21 and 22 and neither one is interested in marriage yet, they prefer to stay in yeshiva for at least another year. I have several sisters/in laws and friends and all the girls are interested from when they come back from seminary.
Thank you to the Schron Family for this beautiful project. We could use a few more.
Reb Avrohom Yehoshua should only take married yungerleit, that way we will solve the shiduch crisis very quick. By Reb Gershon Ribner
Please do not misquote Reb Gershon Ribner! He said that R’ Avrohom Yehoshua has the ability to solve the crisis and as the gadol hador that he is, he clearly is choosing not to do so for whatever reason.
Only Hakadosh Baruch Hu- Hashem Hu HaElokim, can and will solve the issue with shidduchim. He is the one and only who is mezaveg zevugim – not Gershon Ribner and not Avrohom Yehoshua.
You are very right about the fact Hashem is the only one who can solve this crisis, however you’re dead wrong about addressing these Giants in torah without at least a R’!
Hashem leaves his mitzvos for us to fulfill, that’s where our bechirah comes in. The manhigei Yisroel are taken to task for the decisions they make many times by Chazal.
The age gap thing is nonsense
My daughter is on the market for three years now. There are hundreds and hundreds of boys out there on the market. There were hundreds of boys on the market three years ago and there are even more boys now.
Just not the right one!!!!!!
This one is too yeshivish, that one too quiet, that one is not long enough learner, that one is too cool, too short, too tall, too much of a macher, his family is modern, his mother is too strict/involved, too worldy, too introverted, too chilled, too intense etc etc etc etc
I am not aware of any girl who felt that the right boy that was for her was “Gechapted” by someone else. Shiduchim is not Kol D’alim Gvar or a process of first come first serve. Shiduchim is about Tzugepast, and the fact is that there are more good girls than there are good boys.
After all the brainwashing every girl gets in high school and seminary where they are told that the ultimate success is to marry the next klei kodesh and potential gadol hador, there simply arent enough boys who meet the criteria.
It has nothing to do with age !!!!!!!!!
Best comment!
Are Rav Elya Ber, Rav Moshe Hillel Hirsh, Rav Gershon Ribner & many other Chachmei Yisroel brainwashed?
Do you daughter a favor & think yourself through before you announce your misguided opinions.
Hey Chaimel
I didnt state any ‘misguided’ opinions. I stated facts.
FACT: There are more good girls than there are good boys
FACT: Many girls (and their parents) are overly picky
FACT: The girls are brainwashed to live a life of sacrifice and marry klei kodesh and to marry an “erliche baal habos who is koveiah ittim” is yeharog v’al yaavor, even a 5 year learner is nowadays L’bdieved mamesh
The problem is NOT age gap
PROOF: Has there any been a time were there weren’t any un-engaged Bochrim in BMG??? NEVER HAPPENED. There has always been HUNDREDS of bochrim on the market
Its a self created mindset crisis, NOTHING TO DO WITH AGE
Fact: boys are brainwashed as well. They think there’s only one Yeshiva in America, so much so, that the yeshivos of yesteryear are empty.
Do you have a son in shidduchim as well? Wait for his cheshbonos. Wrong hair color. Wrong neighborhood. Not enough support. Too skinny. Too short. Father not enough of a talmid chochom. The list goes forever that side as well. Maybe the problem for your daughter is that you are posting on the Scoop instaed of sitting her down with Daas torah to know what she really should be looking for in a Shidduch. Instead she thinks she needs what some friend of hers is telling her.
Yes, I married off boys and I have a boy on the market
The difference is simple
For my boys, my first criteria is not to look for a “good girl”. Why ? Because 80% of the girls are good girls. So I look at my son and try to find a girl that matches his personality, intensity (or chilled/relaxed etc) and hashkafa range, and hopefully some money and looks as well
Whereas for my girls, my number criteria is finding a “good boy”.
Why is that ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD TO FIND
Why?
Because there aren’t that many GOOD boys
NOT BECAUSE OF AGE !!!!!!
BECAUSE ITS HARDER TO BE A GOOD BOY THAN TO BE A GOOD GIRL !!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not harder. They are equally nuts. Equally brainwashed. There are many fantastic superstar Bachurim in Brooklyn yeshivos, and in Chofetz Chaim of Queens. Come check them out. Get out of brainwashed fakerville Fakewood.
Totally forgot to mention
My daughter needs a boy “who is a gavra”. Whatever thats supposed to mean. That cuts out 50% of the boys market. Again, nothing to do with “age gap”
Your daughter needs you to keep quiet until she gets married, then you can let it all out. (unless you have more girls to marry off)
I have 5 more girls to eventually marry off, 2 of them will be on the market soon. And thats why I’m talking up now. Yes, its hard for the Gedolim to acknowledge that the current yeshiva system in only generating about 30% or less metzuyanim, 40% beinonim and and 30% of bochrim fail the system and barely survive while on the girls side you prob have 50% plus “great girls”, 30% “good girls” and maybe 20% shvach girls, so yes, the playing field is drastically unmatched and obviously theres a shidduch crisis
Whereas in the chasidish velt, there are few girls who are looking to “10 year learner”, they are looking for boys vos ken machen kiddush friday night vi ah heilige yid” and thats why the chasidim don’t have our crisis
Your percentages are dreams. The vast majority are burnt out within 2 years of marriage. that’s if they even last that long. The girls while they may be wonderful and fantastic, how many of them will actually manage 5+ years of being the only adult in the house, plus being responsible for the bills. It’s extremely difficult prospect.
maybe we can fix the system and stop categorizing boys there are no a boys b boys c boys etc…. the system is messed and corrupt there is a yeshiva in town that told a family we aren’t excepting your son because we have one open slot and the other family has more money the system is messed up beyond belief not just in the beautiful town in lkwd
and yes after being hurt by the system we turn into c boys,,,,,
This is a real issue
As someone who tries to red Shidduchim I keep hearing this term. I wish girls would realize you’re marrying a guy who’s 23-25 he’s a work in progress. He’s not going to be a fully developed person. Besides, do they want a husband who insists on his way and doesn’t take her needs into account? Such a mistaken outlook! You want someone sensitive.
If a guy is a work in progress at 23 he needs major psychiatric help. Not a Gemara. Not a shidduch.
It’s a beautiful idea , just when the askinim are putting together the guidelines, try not to make the poor feel like they’re poor please . Some of these takana weddings can be so degrading to the Kallah .
(Maybe get input from some of the poor who will be using the hall before all the rich people make their “guidelines “)
The takanos weddings in Lakewood are beautiful
Not degrading at all. Very Bakovidig & nice.
Sefardi Chacham is just playing with you all. Don’t take what he’s saying seriously.
(He’s probably not even sefardi and named Yoeli)
Huge thanks to the Schron family for this initiative. How many needy couples will be saved the embarrassment of collecting for their wedding night? One suggestion: have a room where singles can meet during kabbalas panim while looking their best.
To R’ Ruby Schron and his great children, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING FOR KLAL YISROEL!!!
HASHEM SHOULD BENCH THE WHOLE SCHRON FAMILY WITH HEALTH HAPPINESS AND WEALTH!!!
Thank you Eliyakum Getzel! The real driver behind this initiative.
The Schron mishpacha has been trying to do this in Brooklyn for about a decade. However there were issues getting a property for a successful project.
They should set up a studio with photography equipment.
They should purchase speakers, a Keyboard and a DJ system and keep it in place.
I’m assuming a lot of the cost of the band and cameras are purchasing and schlepping the equipment
the technology exists today where the lights, sounds, and photo and video can be taken care of with an interactive AI system which can make everyone happy for free!!!
for a small investment of installation and maintenance all of the above can be accomplished effectively in house with almost no labor costs or corporate profits!
maybe we can fix the system and stop categorizing boys there are no a boys b boys c boys etc…. the system is messed and corrupt there is a yeshiva in town that told a family we aren’t excepting your son because we have one open slot and the other family has more money the system is messed up beyond belief not just in the beautiful town in lkwd
and yes after being hurt by the system we turn into c boys,,,,,