Lakewood Posek: No issue with leaving Chometz in Township-owned Trash Bins during Pesach

[FROM TLS ARCHIVES] Rabbi Shmuel Felder Shlita, one of Lakewood’s leading Poskim, tells TLS that Lakewood residents may leave Chometz in their trash bins to be picked up during Pesach.

Rabbi Felder explained that leaving Chometz in the bin would not constitute being in possession of Chometz, since the bins are owned by the Lakewood Township.

A Township official tells TLS that the $49 fee paid for the bin is not a rental fee, buf a delivery fee. The township actually retains ownership of the bins.

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Charlie
9 years ago

How about in a development where the streets are privately owned? (meaning we don’t get township snow plowing etc.. )

Picked up
9 years ago

I think the keywords here are “picked up” – meaning left on the street. If it’s on your property it may be a problem… At least that’s what the posek I asked told me.

Each should ask their own Rav.

Lkwd loca
9 years ago

Do the bins have to be in the street or can they be on your property ?
Please don’t reply unless your a Rabbi or heard from a Rabbi.
I’m not interested in your Lumdus – I need a psak.

Ben Eliezer
9 years ago

What about the fact that the township charges residents a fee for “rental” of the bins?

abe
Reply to  Ben Eliezer
8 years ago

read the letter its not a rental fee its a delivery fee

Older school
9 years ago

How about everyone just asks their own Rabbi?

Yid
9 years ago

What about if the cover is a little open, and you can see the chametz inside?
And what if you can smell the chametz (like leftover pizza)? Should we just leave it there the entire pesach?
What about the ch’shash that the garbage can can tip over and teh chametz will fall back into your reshus? Or is it already hefker?

@#3 – Every rabbi uses lomdus to reach his/her psak.

Jaxophone
9 years ago

Doesn’t apply to Jackson obviously, were garbage is private.

Josh
9 years ago

@jaxophone it can also apply to Jackson if the cans are owned by the company that picks up the garbage as the cans don’t belong to you. Also, the $49 fee the township charges you is a deposit if the can gets destroyed. If you whose to have the township take the can back they will refund the money to you. Therefore those cans don’t either belong to you.

Barry
9 years ago

Number 3 it clearly states that you can leave in Bin!
That’s the posek.
Doesn’t say has to be here or there!

Informed
9 years ago

Rabbi Felder writes in his Kuntris on Pesach that it is preferable to leave the bins on the street and not on your property, however, in the case of privately owned streets one can rely on the more lenient opinion and keep the cans on his property as well.

@josh
9 years ago

They not refund the $49 anymore .

Moshe in Israel
9 years ago

How about not being OCD. Even if it were in your רשות, once you’ve said “כל חמץ ושאור שיש ברשותי, שראיתיו ושלא ראיתיו, שביערתיו ושלא ביערתיו, יבטל ויהא כעפר הארץ”, the חמץ is no longer owned by you. Which means it isn’t part of the sale of your חמץ.

Lakewood First
8 years ago

My rav said if the cans are on your property with chometz, then its an issue

Frum Kop
8 years ago

Best place to handel a shaila is on TLS

Funny stuff
8 years ago


you said every rabbi uses lumdes to reach his or her psak.
H♧h?

tomatoface
8 years ago

Yid, your right a lot of פסקים are arrived through Lumdus, but that is when the posek known the הלכות and is comparing a specific case to a specific הלכה. Lumdus alone is not תורה. But is just a thought.

Hmm
8 years ago

Tomatoe face are you vaccinated or something ? Lomdus it’s part of been עמל בתורה of course it’s part of Tora .

RebRambo
8 years ago

Speaking of garbage, it didn’t take long for some of the commentators to start dishing it out at one another.

Jim
8 years ago

It’s more than umul batorah, you can’t have proper psak w/o understanding the lumdis of the din.