The following statement was provided to TLS this evening by Rabbi Yisroel Stein of the Houston Kashrus Association regarding the expired Kashrus certificates at the QuickChek store in Lakewood.
UPDATE: Statement From HKA Regarding Expired Kashrus Certificates at QuickChek
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Does this apply to the “kosher bakery” stand there as well?
there’s a stand with kosher pastries right next to the store brand goods. When buying from the kosher stand one should always make sure they got the correct one.
They are not kosher!
what about the ta’aruvos that was going on almost on a nightly basis in and around this establishment?
and then you call this “Kosher”?
The kashrus is on the food what happens in the store is not their job if you don’t like it don’t go
The hechsher organization is for a product that happens to be sold in the store. They don’t give a hechsher on the store. Just like they don’t give a hechsher on your house.
They’re not certifying the establishment. In fact no one is certifying the establishment! Open your eyes and be an educated consumer!
As important as it is, not every conversation needs to move to tznius.
The 7-11 in Lakewood on route 9 is not under HKA. It has a different hechsher. I can’t remember if it the ou or Tabbi Yoffee. Therefore, this post does not apply to this 7-11 as there are notices attached to the shlush machines with the hechsher and I think the dates.
No 7-Elevens anywhere within 2000 miles or more of Lakewood are certified by HKA. If HKA certifies any 7-Eleven stores, they are located in Houston. They are not located anyplace else HKA, a recommended agency, certifies the bases that might be used for 7-Eleven slurpees, Quick Check ice beverages etc. They don’t certify the store. Even if the sign is up there, it doesn’t mean a blasted thing. It’s up to you the consumer to be educated, go in the back and see if that’s what’s being used. Just because the store posted a sign on the front of their machine saying that’s what it is, does not mean that’s exactly what it is. The same flavor profile can come from different locations and some are not certified!
It’s time to be educated consumers and not consumers with our heads stuck in this sand.
Whoever gave me a thumbs down, I’m not sure why, either it was a mistake or you don’t keep kosher.
If I remember correctly the sign is not from the store but from the actual kashrus agency on their letterhead and signed by the Rav of the kashrus organization.
Read what I wrote in my original post. I wrote HKA DOES NOT have a kashrus certificate in the 7-11. Instead of rushing to respond perhaps you should read the post carefully. Also I did not say anything about the hechsher on the rest of the store.
I am very very very sorry but if somebody relies on this certificate at any of the local 7-Elevens Quick Check, etc etc, they are playing Russian roulette. The only way you would know for sure is if you go in the back and check exactly which syrup is being used. HKA, recommended agency, is not telling you that they certify anything at the particular store because they don’t actually certify the store. The letter itself clearly does not mention, if you will notice by opening your eyes and reading, mention anything about the particular store it mentions a facility somewhere wherever it might be located.
Please don’t fall for boych svoras when it comes to kashrus!!!
When sending a response please do it with derech Eretz and respect. There is no reason to belittle others to get your point across. Be a mentch. Embarrassing someone even via text it’s as if you killed them. Being all frum does nothing if you can’t respect someone else. Please don’t fall and listen to your yezter horah that is telling you to put me down and disrespect me.
You clearly did not read my response. I did not say anything about the kashrus of the store. Plus worry about your own kashrus and not mine or anyone else’s. Did I ask you for your opinion. No I did not. Worry about treating others with derech eretz before telling others what they should do or how stupid they are. Everyone has to ask their own shaila. No one appointed you the Rav for psak halocha.
Just to clarify. HKA gives a Hechshure on the manufacture that manufactures most of the syrups in the USA. There is no one “certifying” that quick Check corporate or the local branch is not getting their syrups from a different manufacturer. (It is possible that Jolly Rancher would let another manufacture – not the one with the hechsher use their name). So bottom line is that rov syrups have a hechsher. Ask your rov what to do for yourself. Please don’t confuse others. Everything may change once coloring bans go into effect, you may be dealing with serious shalos then.