Two Juveniles in Custody after Stealing Vehicle from West Gate, Attempting to Dump it in Lake

Two juveniles are in custody after stealing a car and attempting to dump it in the lake, police told TLS.

While patrolling early this morning, officers spotted the 13 and 15-year-olds on the North Lake beach attempting to drive a vehicle into Lake Carasaljo.

Upon questioning, police discovered the kids had stolen the vehicle from West Gate and were planning on ditching it in the lake.

Both suspects were arrested, and taken to police headquarters. They were subsequently released on a summons.

This comes just one day after the stabbing incident, which prompted a crackdown in the area.

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  1. Where are our Rabbanim? Where are our Askonim? Something has to be done about these children we have to take care of them and set them on the right path. If it’s too late then send them out of Lakewood.

    • Lol, what makes you think they arent involved?
      Are you na茂ve enough to believe that there is a solution to every problem? Yes, apparently.

      You think “well no one is ‘taking care’ of this” must be no one is trying. Thats just plain foolish.
      So please, stop blaming others for things that arent in their control.

        • Yes, and because the rabbanim and askanim are so involved, that’s why there aren’t a mountain more such problems! But let us al get involved little bit more! (Maybe shnitzel sandwiches – and a good conversation and friendliness!:)

  2. They are not in custody…they were already released with a simple summons! Obviously the police presence talked about yesterday did not stop this gang. Who is taking responsibility for the release when an innocent person is held up or stabbed or worse CV
    By these disturbed boys??
    Please get them off the street!!

  3. It鈥檚 crazy these kids No nothing is being done that鈥檚 why they do what they want if you鈥檙e a criminal, they should treat them like one they just keep letting them go again and again.

  4. We’ve had 20 years of education with compassion empathy validation also very sophisticated, the modern Way. These are the results. Maybe a change of tact and direction is called for.

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    • Now is not the time for meetings, obviously there was a need for a meeting 20 years ago….. Which didn’t happen. Sadly now it’s the sheriff which needs to take charge… The rabbis mechanchim etc Had their chance and failed…..

      • Why do you say so? They were successful 99.999%, and the .001% is getting the tumult!
        Also note, if everyone ate healthfully etc, 99.999% of health issues wouldn’t exist but this was not known years ago, mostly thanks to Big Pharma which is the biggest business in the US.

    • And they don’t have any crime?!?! You must have meant this tongue-in-cheek.

      Also, they’re not teaching Torah and Mitzvos; they teach hefkeirus, tumah, and who knows what else. They may have a fairly well-ironed system that scares people out of doing crime, but what type of life are they being taught? We teach Torah and mitzvos and chessed, and such problems are virtually unheard of – that’s why they’re making headlines here!
      (We respect all human beings, but why add pressure. Also, your comments on the first story seemed to imply that you couldn’t fathom Yidden being involved in any crime?!)

  6. It’s only a matter of time before these degenerates rape a girl. I no longer allow my girls out after dark in Westgate. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

  7. It’s so nice that these fine bochurim wanted to dunk someone’s car in the mikvah before Rosh Hashanah but can someone please tell them that today’s modern vehicles don’t require to be toivled

    • Teslas do, they’re trying to come up with a filter for their built-in internet!:)
      Also see the video ‘the shvitzer’ by Project Inspire for more about things that do or do not need toiveling! (about kiruv – good humor!)

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  9. maybe someone had a school for them? a job for them? a therapist? an idea how to make them feel good, interested, motivated, and accomplished?
    self worth?
    where is the Board of ED? the State? the Fed? where are the programs to help when and where help is needed?

  10. Emes! but that doesnt mean you dont impose regular justice and safety measures to stop criminal activity.
    This halacha is telling us the approach we must have to the tragedy of what is occurring. Not saying we should allow for it to continue. See DE”R perek 5, the story with Rabbi Yehoshua and the ganav

  11. Many of these comments are very spiteful. Clearly something needs to be done. However, as you post please remember there’s a yiddishe mama somewhere in absolute agony over her child. And if he’s 13!!! Clearly help is needed and we need to Daven that the right people get involved and can reach these kids. No. A 13 yr old needs intervention and rehab of sorts, not jail.
    My heart breaks for the families of these kids.

    • The kids who are KNOWN to have vandalized homes, stolen cars and openly committed armed robbery? You’ll give those kids the assumption of innocence? Do you realize that we know who they are and the crimes they constantly have been committing?
      I dare you to park your car or walk your family anywhere near their homes. And I have their addresses, if you need more details.
      I know that if I need to walk those streets, I must bring a weapon. And I know many neighbors who feel the same.
      Stop deluding your community into an oblivious sense of safety.

  12. I know from experience parents can鈥檛 make them get help unless they want it must be court mandated the court system is not doing enough. These kids are getting away with everything no one says jail, but they need to get scared straight they can鈥檛 get let off that doesn鈥檛 help them

    • Yes, there are lesson to learn from Ben Sorer Umoreh. it is interesting that Chaza”l say that there never was nor will ever be one. But I heard a great vort in a shiur from the Chof-K here in Lakewood, years ago (he was mentioning about how treif foods are metamtem halev). Chaza”l say ‘why was the parsha of ben sorer umoreh written if it will never happpen? They answer: Learn it and get sechar’. The Marsh”a asks, is it simply a mitzvah to learn something that has no halacha lemaaseh?! He answers that while the actual Ben Sorer Umoreh will never happen, however, by studying the matter, one will learn many points in chinuch.

      • If everyone can just think for one moment, if this was my child, my relative would i say the same comments.
        Probably not! You would probably be in tears reading all these comments. Noone can judge or point fingers at anyone for you boruch hashem are not going through the pain, the hurt, the pointing of fingers, and especially the remarks that people give these parents.
        The parents are in terrible pain. They are suffering . They don’t sleep at night. Everytime the phone rings their heart jumps a beat. Is this the phone call that I and my children will have to sit Shiva for?
        So until you are Chas vshalom in the parent shoes. Do Not judge.
        You may say oh my child is the best. I brought up my children like tzadikim I’m from a family of rosh yeshivas this would never happen to me. These children were brought up like tzadikim.
        We need to give tremendous LOVE to our children and hope and daven that they remain close to Hashem and that they keep shabbos. While your davening to Hashem For your children Daven For these Lost Children. Daven for their Parents to have strength and never give up.
        May Hashem listen and answer ALL YOUR TEFILLOS LTOVA! KESEVA VCHASEEMA TOVA!

        • I daven for those parents. But I also fear for my family’s life! The trauma my kids experience, living with bullies, burglars, bike thieves, car thieves, vandals, etc right down the block!!! Have rachmonus on us!

  13. Let us just remember that these things are extremely uncommon by us, and that’s why it’s making waves. In other places, there can be a large slew of terrible crimes in a short span, and they’re hardly even reported. Mi Ke’amcha Yisroel!

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