Submitted: Why I’m Voting For Biden

Saying that you’re anti-Trump in the Republican stronghold of Lakewood is not a very popular thing to do. But here I am doing it publicly, and proudly saying that I will vote for Joe Biden for president. You don’t have to like it, but nobody has given me a half-decent explanation for why I am wrong.

I will enumerate some of the reasons. For one, President Trump is an overly materialistic individual. Remember when you were in yeshiva or seminary and your rebbi/morah taught how lowly people become when everything in their life is materialism? Well, Donald Trump is that person to a tee. How can we as religious Jews vote for someone whose values in life as so antithetical to our own? I know I can’t. And then compare that with Joe Biden, who, for all his flaws, appears to be a very decent husband and father, despite his son, Hunter’s, troubles.

Another reason: Trump is an egomaniac. That matters when it comes to the presidency. He can’t accept criticism at all; every time someone says the tiniest thing he doesn’t like, he tweets out a barrage of playground nicknames at the person. You would think a 70+-year-old man would be passed that stage, right? But no, not Donald Trump. And that behavior alone makes an utter mockery of the presidency.

And let’s look at his actual policies. How could we as frum Jews, specifically we who live in Lakewood, support someone who wants to do away with much of the welfare system so many Lakewood families rely on? Trump wants to cut down food stamps. How many Lakewood families will go hungry? I’m scared to know. Trump wants to disqualify hundreds of thousands of students from free lunch programs in school. That’ll be another expense on families who already can’t afford to pay their current ones. Trump wants to do away with Obamacare; how many Lakewood families need to lose their health insurance for the sake of re-electing an old angry white man to be the most powerful man in the world?

So you’ll say that he is a strong champion of Jews. Is he though? How many tries did it take until he denounced white supremacists who support him and think he loves them? A bunch of tries, right? Because, for some reason, he just couldn’t get the words “I condemn anti-Semitic Jew-haters” out of his mouth. Super pro-Jews, I tell ya. “But Israel!” you’re probably thinking. Sure, he’s done some good things for Israel, but aren’t we against the Israeli government? Don’t we hate how they beat up charedim and treat them like second-class citizens? So what is so exciting that Trump is helping people who hate us? I don’t get the logic.

The bottom line is this: Joe Biden is a decent man, his policies are moderately liberal. No, he’s not AOC or Ilhan Omar or Bernie Sanders, and he never was. No, he won’t be controlled by them either. That’s just as offensive as people who say the government is controlled by Jews. Stop it. Be fair. Biden has been a mentsch his entire career, he has shown he actually cares about people, and he is willing to work with Republicans. Oh, and he won’t be tweeting childish insults at 6 AM. Is that too much to ask for?

On Tuesday, I am proudly walking over to my polling place and filling out a provisional ballot for the next president of the United States, Joe Biden. Don’t like it? Too bad.

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195 COMMENTS

    • Seems like the scoop is trying to be “Fair & Equal” to either side.

      Presumably, to fit “journalistic standards”.

      While this type of “playing house” would be understood and even appreciated in normal times;

      At this juncture it is pure folly.

      1- If anyone’s head is not in the sand, you will see a consorted effort to quash information that can inform the public to make an educated decision, BEYOND ANY JOUNALISTIC standard that existed until now.

      2. You have a candidate that YOU know is being led around for show & tell, but does not have the capacity to be a Mayor of a small town, not to mention the Presidency.

      3. The Mob Intimidation, the likes we have never seen let loose on anyone [especially Black Americans who DARE to have a mind of their own.

      4. The abject extremeness of this candidates agenda is on its face, destructive & dangerous.

      THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO “PLAY” OFFICIAL !

      IT IS TIME TO PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS TO FIGHT BACK !

      I’m very disappointed in the scoop.

      [Note, I am not even bringing in Daas Torah, of which is obvious].

    • You may not like trump for one reason or another, but you didn’t give one reason to vote for Biden, except for the fact that he’s a “decent man.”
      What about the money he benefited from Hunters deals with world superpowers? it’s not just “his son, Hunter’s, troubles,” it’s corruption at the highest level. Just because you don’t like trump, you don’t have to pull the lever for biden.

      • What about the Trump kids? Stealing money from a childrens’ cancer charity and funneling it into the Trump organization? Two million dollars that Trump absolutely benefited from. Which they were found GUILTY of and had to pay back? Dont want to talk about that?

        • There was no allegation of stealing funds, and they have given and raised tens of millions to charity.

          The allegation of misuse was not for $2 million. the settlement was to pay back a total of $2 million, over $1.8 million of which was in the foundation bank account.

        • Are you getting your info from MSNBC & CNN?
          If you go to Fox News and do a “search” on that story, I am 100% confident that you will get solid proof that the President was found 100% innocent. This is the same old game of trying to impeach or wasting 10 billion dollars of our hard earned money and investigating the President for “Russia collusion”. The entire investigation by Mr. Robert Mueller for about 2 years and 10 billion dollars in the garbage was all a hoax. Many people work very hard to make an honest living and to put billions and billions of dollars from our hard earned money and waste it, that is a real CRIME. They knew from the very beginning that there was no Russia collusion at all.

  1. Wow.
    #1 it doesn’t take half a brain to know where he stands on white supremacy etc… the very root of this whole debacle was twisted into a lie which you’ve obviously bought in to. He clearly denounced them at that very moment. The MSM plays revers psychology at every opportunity to find a “gotcha” moment. What’s your stance on Biden and Co calling antifa a myth/ just an idea with no pushback for denouncing?

    #2 R Shmuel Kaminetzky as well as many other leading Rabbonim clearly disagree with you. And don’t think they aren’t aware of his past and his behavior.

    #3 welfare? THIS is exactly where you expose yourself as totally aligned with the radical left who encourage govt dependency and don’t care to stick it to the working class tax payer.

    Open you eyes and mind.

  2. I’m sorry, but I don’t follow your logic. You don’t want to vote for TTump because he’s materialistic? Isn’t that what we want? If the President is ‘materialistic’ hell advocate for a strong economy. If he’s a socialist – like all the democrats – then they’ll try to destroy the economy. That’ll make a lot of people go hungry – much more than defunding the lunch program and whatever other stuff the socialists sell you.

  3. Looking for an answer. You have concluded that this is what is best for you. Unfortunately you are not thinking of the serious consequences of your choice. Hashem Yishmor.

  4. The issue isn’t sleepy joe necessarily himself it’s the people behind him the man is losing his mind and before we know it Kamala Harris will take over…..

  5. your a fool for voting for a person that would not condemn anti semmitte Omar Talib black lives matter etc there’s even a question if your allowd to be metzref you to a minyan when blm riot and burn down your neighborhood will talk then

  6. You start off by saying,
    “But here I am doing it publicly, and proudly saying that I will vote for Joe Biden for president”
    Yet you don’t sign off with your name. and that’s not even the biggest lie of this letter ????

    • Maybe the writer didn’t add a name so that they wouldn’t have eggs thrown at their house or be beaten in the streets of NY because the opinion expressed is not the same as yours.

  7. This is ridiculous! If no one was able to explain to him why he is wrong. He’s living amongst a bunch of dummies! I’m not going to east my words with such a moron!….
    The fact that all rabonim endorsed Trump should be enough. But clearly nothing is!…..

  8. You bring up some valid points. However the food stamps and welfare he wants to cut are offset by a strong capitalism, as they say high tide floats all boats.
    Your claim about white supremacy is totally a false media fake news claim. President trump has for years denounced white supremacy. There is video evidence to back that up!!!
    Biden is not a decent person, he is a corrupt politician who has lined his pockets off the backs of the American people. Although he may have a more socialist agenda which offers more welfare therefore benefiting Lakewood’s low income families, this plan is not sustainable and will bankrupt the country in short order.
    Not to mention all the policies Biden supports which are against the Torah. As Rabbi Miller would say IT IS FORBIDEN TO VOTE FOR SUCH A PERSON!!!!!!

    • He called Nazis “very fine people” on live TV. He told his “proud boys” to “stand down and stand by” on live TV. He has denounced nothing and encouraged ALL of it.

      • He did not call Nazis fine people, that is an outright lie. The proud Boys are not racist. The chairman of the group is a minority as are many members

      • By the very fact that they lie about this shows just how important it is to vote for the President Trump ! DO NOT REWARD the liars of such an important topic as anti-semitism !!

      • I am also a community member.
        He never ever ever called the nazis fine people.
        STOP LYING.
        Enough with these lies.
        And I do not believe that you are a true member of the community.

  9. Classic liberal. “Don’t vote for trump, he’s not a nice person”. Nice guys finish last.. the USA does not need a nice guy! The “nice guys” you have backing your beliefs also condone riots, burglarizing, unrest, racism, I can go on and on, oh also no one gives a damn who and why you are voting for whomever you choose… fact that you felt you needed to submit a whole letter is soooooooo liberal of you… good day

  10. You bring up some valid points. However the food stamps and welfare he wants to cut are offset by a strong capitalism, as they say high tide floats all boats.
    Your claim about white supremacy is totally a false media fake news claim. President trump has for years denounced white supremacy. There is video evidence to back that up!!!
    Biden is not a decent person, he is a corrupt politician who has lined his pockets off the backs of the American people. Although he may have a more socialist agenda which offers more welfare therefore benefiting Lakewood’s low income families, this plan is not sustainable and will bankrupt the country in short order.
    Not to mention all the policies Biden supports which are against the Torah. As Rabbi Miller would say IT IS FORBIDEN TO VOTE FOR SUCH A PERSON!!!

  11. Bravo

    You’re not alone. I voted for Biden as well and know quite a few others that have. Seeing the vile hatred from Trump lovers just reinforces my conviction that Trump is turning this country into a cesspool full of hatred…all for his own egomaniacal gain.

    • The only hatred that I see is coming from the liberal left. On his own merit, Biden would never have gotten anywhere near the presidency. 47 years in government and not one substantial thing to show for it! He had his chance while VP to change, but did not do it. His only redeeming factor for many is that he is NOT Trump! The vile hatred for Trump is like something never seen before. It is interesting to note, many leftists accuse Trump of the VERY thing of which they are themselves guilty!

  12. Your letter has valid points but you mentioned the things you learnt or should have inculcated from seminary or Yeshiva to follow daas Torah
    And this is the first election that our gedolim as well as those in Eretz Yisroel have spoken out and asked everyone to vote for pres trump
    No one is asking you to do a shidduch with him where everything you mentioned would be a valid reason not to do the shidduch
    But as far as what he has done for Jews and Israel we as Jews owe him hakoras hatov to go out and vote for him
    I trust Rav Shmuel kamenetsky shlita who’s daas Torah is pure and has nothing personal to gain by coming out in support of pres trump
    Go out and show your thanks

  13. Nebach. the gedolim are saying to vote for trump, where is your kavod Hatorah? Even if you think you know better, shame on you for openly disagreeing and for going against daas Torah. R Yehoshua took his money pouch on what he was sure was tom Kippur because his rebbe said to. How can you possibly justify your actions and attitude?
    In addition, you honestly sound naive in your “reasoning” as none of it is based on fact. Stop thinking with your heart and use your head. Look at what past presidents have done and have said regarding israel and jews. Look at what grump has done for us. This is not a vote for class president. It doesn’t matter what you think of him, what matters is what he has accomplished. Look at the Democratic Party, it is becoming more and more anti Semitic and anti jewish values every day. The facts don’t lie. You can think what you will of trump, but stop acting like an uneducated self hating Jew.

  14. Trump condemned white supremacy 48 times (starting with Charlottesville if you actually listened to the speech)
    But you’d prefer the media narrative Good luck

  15. Seems like the scoop is trying to be “Fair & Equal” to either side.

    Presumably, to fit “journalistic standards”.

    While this type of “playing house” would be understood and even appreciated in normal times;

    At this juncture it is pure folly.

    1- If anyone’s head is not in the sand, you will see a consorted effort to quash information that can inform the public to make an educated decision, BEYOND ANY JOUNALISTIC standard that existed until now.

    2. You have a candidate that YOU know is being led around for show & tell, but does not have the capacity to be a Mayor of a small town, not to mention the Presidency.

    3. The Mob Intimidation, the likes we have never seen let loose on anyone [especially Black Americans who DARE to have a mind of their own.

    4. The abject extremeness of this candidates agenda is on its face, destructive & dangerous.

    THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO “PLAY” OFFICIAL !

    IT IS TIME TO PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS TO FIGHT BACK !

    I’m very disappointed in the scoop.

    [Note, I am not even bringing in Daas Torah, of which is obvious].

  16. Definitely a troll to create some clickbait!! Still have to respond! Bad enough you feel your reasoning is better than R’ Shmuel Kamenetsky’s. Just read how biden is already in talks with the Palestinian Authority. That should be enough to show you his “ideas”. Also keep in mind how the sick Cuomo will be getting a major position. Not to mention AOC will probably have strong power. H’ should save us all!

  17. If you are so proud why did you leave the post anonymous?
    But lets refute your logic.
    First, materialistic, it has nothing to do with governing or who he is, even though he earned it.
    Second, Egomaniacs, you obviously didn’t read the dossier and the accusations within it. Then 3 more years of baseless accusation for anything everywhere; you would have folded like a cheap suit. Yet, he stood strong against. Yes, a president needs an ego, lucky has a big one.
    Third, about the government programs, he has been president since 2016 and nothing has happened; stop fearmongering.
    Forth, racist and anti-Semite, why has he been so good to the Jewish and black communities? Freeing Rubashkin, peace in the middle east, the platinum plan, funding HBCU, prison reform, etc. The list goes on.

    Lastly, you think a 78 year old with signs of dementia will prevent the radicals on the left from destroying this great country, okay, but your living a fantasy.

  18. Maybe Trump is Achashverosh and this is his Shushan, but biden is Bera and this will be his sodom and Gomorrah. Vote for Trump who doesn’t want to let mother’s kill their unborn child not for Biden who wants to turn America into Sodom.

  19. I would to explain why you are totally wrong.
    #1 Being materialistic is every goy we know that from our uncle Eisav, now if you look at his policy his being materialistic doesn’t affect the way his logic dictates.
    #2 Not being able to take criticism is only an issue when there is what to criticize, Trump did an amazing job until now,so big deal his way of taking blame is pointing out his apponents hypocrisy,thats the way it should be. Like we were taught fix yourself before you fix others.
    #3 Denouncing Anti semitsism is all talk “words” like what the liberals do. Trump is about action like what he’s done for Israel, talking proudly of his jewish daughter and son inlaw and grandchildren there’s no bigger way to condemn anti semitsism than by doing big pro jews moves like he’s done.
    #4 We hate the Israeli government we know they are anti chareidim and hate us. But the goyim associate jews with Israel even though Israel only represents Zionism not Judaism, so for Trump to do something pro Israel in his mind its pro Jews, that’s why we take it with pride. Get you logic straight, you are totally wrong.

  20. This letter writer clearly has very very short-term memory, short-term vision, and shallow understanding.
    But then again, that’s what a typical Democrat is.

  21. While I will agree with some of the comments that Biden has some major issues, anyone can see that there major concerns with Trump as well.
    They are both horrible candidates.
    Nobody really believes Trump is an angel.
    At the end of the day it somes down to which candidate better benefits your specific situation,like welfare and taxes etc.
    There is no one size fits all.

    • Moe,

      No one here is voting Trump because he’s an angel. We’re voting him because HE GETS THINGS DONE and he’s not afraid to take on the media, his enemies and adversaries the left wing radicals etc etc

  22. Put Biden in and Sanders, AOC, Omar, Tlaib are given more power. Sanders openly said (last bight- Sunday night) that once Biden gets in, the “Squad” is going to double down on pushing forth their agenda. So no, Trump has my vote.

  23. As one of the most popular groups in the Lakewood/Jackson area we wholeheartedly throw our support for Joe Biden. He has proven to be a true leader and will make America Great Again FOR EVERYONE!!

  24. Sorry, the article writer has his sides all twisted. The lowly life is the biden party. Biden alone will NOT be president. He is way too ill for that. Harris has terrible values. Everything about her running the country(ies) will be against yidden. TLS should tell him to get his facts correct b4 posting

  25. REB YIDDLE, YOUR BEING VERY NARISH, WOULD YOU RATHER A EXCELLENT SURGEON WITH BAD BEDSIDE MANNERS AND FOUL LAUNGAGE, OR A VERY POLITE BUT HORRIBLE surgeon, that operates on the wrong knee? you said you learnt in yeshiva? did you go to musser seder? you need to get your priorities straight! the alter of slabudka said the first principal of a yid is not to be a fool! you should start listening to reb avigdor millers tapes, and then you will know you have to do tshuvah for your bad hashkofis,hatzlacha!

  26. I won’t insult you for your opinions and views however youre so mistaken and misguided. Mr. Nice guy will be so nice he won’t be able to stand up to all our enemies all over the world. And there are MANY! Not to mention that his ‘gaffes’ that everyone talks about is really dementia setting in. He will shortly be seen as unfit for prez and we’ll have radical left ms COMMA as president. As for Trump, u must show hakaras hatov for all the good he’s done for us. He freed rubashkin among others, very good to Israel and the jews. Even though he’s a big baal gaiva and could have obnoxious behavior etc. at the end of the day he talks often about GD. He does acknowledge that he needs GDs help. He has said it publicly numerous times. And Biden? He’s an animal. Don’t fool yourself into thinking he’s even half way decent!

  27. COVID-19 whatsapp group.
    I know you’re living in fear. Which is a terrible thing.
    Look at Europe it is way worse, they are closing down again death are up.
    We must tank trump for all the help he did for us. He helped states gave ppe gave hospitals bed. Gave ventilators, he brought in the large ship. Trump did everything humanly possible.
    It’s the star governor who made terrible terrible decisions.
    Man you need to wake up.
    You need to think clearly, not with fear
    And before the Chinese virus, which is in no way shape or form trumps fault. The Economy what is doing amazing, his foreign policy was amazing, he helped Israel amazing, he put on great justices of the courts.
    The dems are the party of evil locked downs, he’s it’s evil to harm people. Dems are party of destruction of peoples lives and property, their policies are harmful the people in this country.
    They made up 3 years of lies against this president.
    They hate religion, and freedom.
    Man I know your brainwash and living in fear. But you got to think clearly. .

    End with my Bracha that Hashem should make trump win, with a clear victory and all the dems should lose any power.

  28. These points are all valid. The Trump worship in our community is embarrassing and pathetic.
    For those saying character doesnt matter, hes not a rov etc. do you remember counting how many times obama said “I”? Do you remember saying bill Clinton is unfit bec he’s a menuval? What happened? Trump is a bigger menuval than Clinton and a bigger egomaniac than obama but now it’s fine?
    Character is destiny. Ones actions will be dictated by his character.
    His character is why he couldn’t take the coronavirus seriously bec he thought it would damage his reelection chances. (Ironically every world leader that took the virus seriously is immensely popular.) And now there are 230k dead and counting. America is 4% of the worlds population has 20% of the worlds deaths.
    His character is why he couldn’t disavow david dukes endorsement pn the first try. (Blamed a faulty earpiece lol) And if you think it has no effect, it’s just words etc., look at the rate of anti semitic attacks since trump took office. Skyrocketed. He encourages anti semites and white supremacists. They all celebrate when he calls them “fine people”. Dont let the trumpy fake news media fool you that he wasnt referring to white supremacists. There was no one else at that rally besides white supremacists. They were chanting “Jews will not replace us”. That’s a oheiv yisrael? That’s someone who we should make mi shebeirachs for??
    Thete are plenty anti trump gedolim, for those who say r shmiel kaminetzky endorsed him. And do you know if r shmiel kaminetzky knows that he called anti semites fine people? That anti semitic attacks rose tremendously since trump took office?
    Kudos to the letter writer for writing this and for TLS for publishing it.

  29. Sure sounds like you just got back from seminary!

    If your vote is about materialism, both Trump & Biden tried to make a fortune & own multiple houses. Trump is just better at what he does
    & makes his money honestly. Biden got his money from selling access to his office to Chinese companies.

    If Biden would be capable of making more than the 9 million he has, he’d gladly be more materialistic than he currently is. He is just too stupid to get anything accomplished.

    And about Lakewood families on welfare – if we had school choice which Trump is promising (& Biden despises) almost every frum family would make ends meet or better. Trump never advocated for getting rid of the safety net for people who are disabled or working but not making it. He actually expanded tax credits for families.

    • Trump made his money honestly?!
      Huh?!
      How is stiffing contractors time and time again considered making money honestly?
      Is this some new definition of ‘honest’ that I have not previously heard?

      School choice is a terrible idea. It will anyway not trickle down to the parents’ pockets. We will not be the beneficiaries.

      • Stiffing contractors?? Ever heard of business? No one forces you to into a business deal -if you dont agree – you walk!

        School choice is a bad idea? you obviously are part of some teachers union… advocating for terrible public schools on this forum proves you are a troll.

  30. Just from the fact that the people trying to take him down at every turn (Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer…) are Jewish and he still didn’t open the gas Chambers are enough of a reason to vote for him. The democrats are the Korach’s of our generation, they don’t don’t want to bring the bottom up, they want to drag the top down. And don’t tell me but Biden won’t be controlled by the ACO’s, Harris was literally rated the most liberal United States senator by a non-partisan commission.

  31. Its a free country and you can do whatever you want. However let’s get real here.

    1 – I have yet to meet a Biden supporter who can tell me why they will vote for Biden without mentioning Trump
    2 – Joe is a decent man? The hundreds of millions he got from bribes by using us? The children he was improper with? The ladies he was improper with? The lies he has said since back in his collage days?
    3 – What platform does he stand for? What policies can you share that are strong policies that he will bring into government and make happen?
    4 – Cities around the country are frantically boarding up their windows in fear of who? Trump supporters in case Trump loses? No, we are afraid of the Biden thugs in case Trump wins
    5 – Have you seen any Biden rallies with thousands of people who love him? Have you seen any American flags being waved with pride at any of his rallies?
    6 – His plan is to shut down the country again because of a disease that is only still an issue because of all the testing. Hospitalizations, vents, deaths are all minimal countrywide but he wants to shut you down, not let you work, not let your kids go to school, not let you daven in shul and so much more
    7 – He is obviously suffering from dementia or Alzheimer’s which means he won’t actually be the President so in essence you are voting for a machashayfa who absolutely is not a liberal and is totally in line with Sanders, AOC, Omar and the other yimach shemoms in congress.
    8 – Please share with us the Biden platform and policies you are aware of that he stands for
    9 – What Biden accomplishments can you list for us in the 47 years he has been in congress?
    10 – How many times has Biden publicly praised and supported the arab people? How much American money did he send to Iran? To other Jewish hating groups?

    I can add another 20 things for sure to this list but why bother? Your logic is twisted. You need to be Makir Tov and recognize the good. Nobody says you have to like the president or like his personality. Everyone says you need to recognize and appreciate the good. The economy is growing, jobs are at an all time high, the market reached numbers never before seen, American pride is back, our boarders are protected, our manufacturers are booming, we are no longer beholden to terrible deals with foreign countries, our military is strong, our supreme court shares our torah values and on and on and on.

    The Almighty takes care of us and ultimately it is he and he only who will determine the winner in the election. I for one am forever grateful to having the zchus of living in the greatest country in the world with the greatest President we have ever had. I admire and learn from a person who no matter what is thrown at him remains strong and committed to doing what’s best for others. I am in awe of a person who is knocked, mocked, kicked, punched, attacked and abused daily, in a public way, yet remains strong and keeps on going. This is a person who shows me that I can fight the sotan, I can stand strong against forces that try to bring me down and I can succeed.

    I am proud to listen to Horav Shmuel Kamenetsky Shlita and cast my vote for President Trump.

    Your article was a good read because it reminded me that a Trump hater will forever be a Trump hater and will never be able to have an ayin tov on a person who has done so much for me personally even though he doesn’t even no I exist. It reminded me that a person who has everything in the gashmiusdiga world a person could want still gave it all up just because he cares so deeply about his people – something I wonder if i would be able to do myself. It reminded me that Hashem runs the world because nobody gave him a chance yet here he is, and that means I also should never give up because anything can happen at a moments notice.

    Thank you again for reminding my why my whole family and me proudly went to early voting just to be sure we can do our histadlus to reelect this great President.

    Thank you

  32. Firstly it sounds like someone paid you to write this email- maybe someone from the Biden campaign as they are getting desperate.

    Or perhaps a bochur who is bored and instead of stirring up trouble on the Yated, sent the letter here.

    How do you call yourself a Torah Jew when one of the Gedolei Yisroel – Rav Shmuel Kamentezky made a public statement that all Jews must vote Trump.

    How do you as a so called Torah Jew advocate Biden- a man who is pro-Toeiva , pro abortion, hates Eretz Yisroel, and is friends with Jewish murderers the PLO. Biden is also likes to be buddy buddy with Iran.

    How do you say Krias Shema every night and vote for a person who has proudly supported things that brought about the Mabul, and stands for Everything that the Torah is against!??

  33. After reading his first reason u must think he doesn’t have to much internet (not that it’s an issue) because he doesn’t know how CREEPY JOE name comes from… hes not the clear guy either….

  34. Whats wrong with being taken off welfare and food stamps? It means you will have a JOB that makes you enough money to provide to your family. What can be better then that. Living off government money has become quite the trend here and it is sickening.
    MAGA!

  35. Chani

    I don’t know how to break this to you but it’s not 1985 anymore. On the issues that “brought about the mabul” both parties are exactly alike. That train had long past. But speaking of sodom and amora. One party clearly does not like immigrants and outsiders and the other is more welcoming and empathetic.

  36. Are we to forget the 8 years of Obama/Biden when all we got was restaurant bombings, Shul stabbings, Bus rammings and Soldier Kidnappings etc .
    Trump came in and not once in his 4 years in office did we the Jewish people have to go through that !
    And what about the 150 billion dollars obama/Biden gave to Iran to fund ISIS and fund Hezbolla that murdered us and so many innocent lives . Trump came in and wiped out isis and all our enemies
    Trump is the greatest Ohev Israel since President George Washington!
    Quite literally- Historically.
    It pains me greatly to see someone who says Shma etc but then will go and be so insensitive to Hashems children to be unconcerned for their safety as to be accomplice to the disloyalties you have to the greatest Shomer Yisroel of our times .
    Of course he’s just a Shliach .
    But our loyalty should be full with Trump .
    You can not departmentalize loyalty if your loyal to Hashem and his children then loyalty demands backing Trump and the Gedolei Torah .
    May Hashem Guide us and Yes G-D Bless America!!!!!

    • This is really something else.
      Loyalty to Hashem means loyalty to Trump!?!?

      I would like to teach you some dikduk. Gadol is singular, Gedolei is plural. Reb Shmuel Kamenetzky is one person, a great one no doubt, but one. And he is the only Gadol who endorsed a candidate this time. No other recognized Gadol did. So you should change the word to ‘Gadol BaTorah’.

      And you should also take Motrin for the pain that you are feeling. I wish you many berachos and that you should never suffer any worse pain.

  37. I can’t either support trump. His horrible dirty comments and actions that (boruch Hashem!) can’t be reported in the Frum media should be enough of a reason. It is much much worse than your average goy, it’s the lowest of the low. Biden is a decent man and we know his record he’s fine. Vote for decency!

  38. I agree with every point of this article. As for the people who are asking why he didn’t sign his name – the amount of flack and hatred that is spewed against him – how could he?

    • Thats one more vote for the palestinian killers…

      The Biden camp already said they will restore funding to the terrorist. THats after he gave BILLIONS to Iran

      Sorry, actions speak louder than words – no matter how vile the words may be

  39. One has to be either blind or plain stupid to vote for Biden , I don’t believe anybody in their right mind will vote for Biden , I think this article was written just to see what people will say , the author just wanted to see how many comments he or she will get , I am sure they will actually vote for trump , nobody is that dumb…

  40. Where do you stand on pro choice? Same sex marriage? Does that not mean anything to you?
    Joe has been a moderate for years cuz he never felt he had to take a side. He just goes with which way the winds are blowing. His highest achievement was his crime bill which after trump repealed Joe came out apologizing (and yes many jews were also let out of jail by this)
    Last point is we shouldnt have to be dependant on welfare. If they would cut all these programs then our taxes will also come down and then we will be able to afford school lunches. Remember there is nothing free in this world and i can tell you for sure that it ain’t Joe biden picking up the tab at the end of the day
    But then again, its a free country and you can vote for whoever you want and i will defend ur right till the end
    God bless america, trump and all of us

  41. Me and my wife voted for Biden. No more proof is needed why we need to get rid of Trump than the disgusting attacks in the comments above mine.

    This is not normal. You’re in a cult.

  42. Its not being reported in the frum media but pls do yourselves a favor and look up what happened to Hunter bidens mom
    What was the relationship jill had with Joe while joe was still married to his first wife?
    And you think he was such a decent man
    DO YOUR RESEARCH And then feel free to vote how u choose and i will respect that decision

  43. Its very sad when we have jews who don’t learn from history if you look back at all the movements that has lead to the destruction of Judaism its all comes down to two things liberalism and people who think they are intellectuals and know better then everyone else who cares about what daas torah says we are smarter Look at Europe and the maskilim who said we have to be more accepting and loving open minded aka the left look at the zionist movement and their hate of the chareidim look at the tzadukim who said we know more were going to be better then everyone else these are just a few examples and sadly people don’t learn

  44. I voted for Biden and donated as well in part as a reaction to the intolerance I saw from Trump supporters towards anyone who disagrees with them. Biden knows the difference between right and wrong. Trump never has and never will.

  45. A short response to the writer:

    All I need to say is the fact that you have failed to mention or sign your name in your letter shows that you are not going to “proudly walk over to your poll place” and this shows that you don’t believe any of this yourself and you are just looking for attention. Please spare us all of this complete stupidity.

  46. It can be argued that if not for trump aoc and all the other extreme left would not exist as he is a polarizing figure.In the long run he alienated allot of moderate democrats that if not for him woud have supported Israel and he he turned Israel into a partisan issue so we never know if he was really better for us or not.

    • A lot of things could be argued, but they wouldn’t be true. The Dems turned against Israel under Obama and the left has always been strongly anti-Israel.

      The leftist turn in this country is the product of decades of indoctrination on college campuses, not a reaction to Trump, he is just the on e who exposed it

  47. 1. Everyone is entitled to their opinion no need for this antagonism
    2. Lakewood tends to think hurdle, one for all, so it’s refreshing to hear others too
    3. The Points are valid. Trump as a person isn’t a presidential fit. Regardless of the party he represents
    4. Kudos to lakewood scoop for voicing different sides professionally
    5. A provoking thought perhaps : if trump would have take the pandemic more seriously and thus the Frum communities would too mayne we wouldn’t be left with 1200 Frum almonos and countless yesomim in all ages many unmarried.
    Food for thought

    • LLL
      1 – true
      2 – not when it makes no sense but whatever
      3 – again, another person who cannot tell you why to vote for Biden without mentioning Trump
      4 – kudos for a post that generated so much traffic LOL
      5 – A provoking thought perhaps – Had Trump not done what he did as fast as he did it we may have had thousands more die and so many more almonos and yesomim. After all the prediction was 2 million dead and BH BECAUSE of Trump it was only 200,000 in the country. He literally saved 1.8 million lives according to the experts. WOW, I’d vote for someone who saved 1.8 million people by acting so fast in a heartbeat
      Food for thought!!!!!

    • Thank you LLL.
      Why do we all have to think the same way? Why can our community not tolerate multiple opinions?
      If someone thinks differently, let them vote the way they want. Why the vitriol? Why the hate?
      I can understand someone voting for someone different to me, people have different needs and different opinions. They don’t become evil and wrong

  48. The fact that the democrat party support the legalization of abortion till birth and the banning of plastic bags, is reason enough not to vote for any democrat. The fact that the demnetia addled joe continies to lie about the presidents comments on charlottsville stirring up hatred for republicans is reason enough not to vote for him.

  49. Vote Biden. A nation divided is far more dangerous to Jews than the good Trump took credit for—mostly not his—in the middle east.

    Vote out stupid verbiage and division, unprofessionalism, blind nationalism and low-lifes out of america.

  50. You say I the article that you’re publicly talking about voting for Biden yet you don’t sign your name. So you’re a coward and don’t actually believe the stuff you write.

  51. 1. Few people voting democrat are actually voting for Biden. They simply hate trump.

    2. To paraphrase R’ Ahron Zt’zl “Lincoln was also a goy”. Biden is just more polished as any politician, whereas trump did not have that background

    3. You don’t need to support the Israeli government to understand that a strong US relationship with Israel (and more unified middle east) is beneficial for the bnei torah there as well.

    4. True Trump may be looking to curtail social programs but that’s a Republican platform that’s meant to strengthen the economy as a whole.

  52. I heard this the other day and it was spot on, “Can you tell me a reason why you want to vote for Biden without mentioning Trump?”

    Consider this, isn’t it cruel that Jill Biden can’t even bring herself to tell her husband that he is mentally unfit to be running as candidate for the Presidency? If he was elected, how long would he be able to act as President? One day, a few months? maybe, at most, a year?

    Quite honestly, I can’t understand how anyone “frum”, could support the democrat party. They are quite clearly ANTI G-D. And, “what if they were elected?” Any cheder, gemach, yeshiva, shul, church, mosque, etc.would lose their non-profit status, and the vouchers for children to attend private schooling will be annulled. All children would have to attend a State controlled school which would indoctrinate all the children with atheism.

    Kamala Harris’s father, Donald Harris, was referred to as Marxist scholar, while a professor teaching economics at Stanford University. The Green New Deal, which is the plan to be implemented if Biden/Harris are elected, is about imposing cultural and economic Marxism at the federal level in Washington on the American people; under the guise of environmental concerns as it’s justification. A couple days ago, Harris came out of the closet, aligning herself as a Marxist. Don’t delude yourself, Harris, is labeled the most radical leftist of all the politicians vying for Presidency…a true-blue Marxist just like her tatti.

    Not to mention, this country would be under lockdown immediately after the democrat party’s election for who knows how long!

    Ask yourself what has any Democrat done for Israel? Ever? NOTHING!
    You fell for the lie, you have become a puppet of their agenda. Sorry for you. Hopefully, your reprieve will be that Trump gets re-elected, and you can live with your conscience.

  53. Yid against Yid
    Chavrusa vs. Chavrusa

    What happened that people can’t disagree on politics without resorting to insults, name calling or shaming.

    I believe Lev Melachim B’yad Hashem. It doesn’t matter who wins from a policy perspective.

    Our common humanity, menschlichkeit and bein adom lechaveiro is definitely on the ballot this year.

    Wherever your politics lie, make sure not to prop up and idolize a leader who makes you feel it’s ok to attack your fellow Jew.

    I don’t know about you, but such a role model is easy to see when you look at the supporters shutting down the streets.

    Just my two cents.

  54. The scoop is just trying to get more traffic to the website they are trying to get people to talk about this letter so people will visit their website also going against all the rabbis come on like Joe Biden says come on man

  55. I respect your concerns about trump. However we cannot forget our history in a place called Germany there were these people known the most refined people. It was in 1939 that we recognized that a non jew having beutiful manners is not a reason to vote for them. In fact I would like to qoute a line from rabbi Miller when asked why should a jew vote for Nixon rabbi Miller responded “What Nixon did for the Jews, I have no idea. But what Nixon is not doing for the revolutionaries, that I can tell you. Nixon is not encouraging the radicals and the revolutionaries. That’s one thing he’s doing – and that’s enough.
    Let me give you a mashal. Suppose you have two candidates: One is being backed by, let’s say, all the Nazis. All the Nazis say to vote for this candidate. And the other man does not have the endorsement of the Nazis. Are you going to ask, “What did this other candidate do for me?” No – you don’t ask any questions! If this candidate is being endorsed by the Nazis then the other candidate is the one.”
    What is at stake in these elections 1) God, the liberals what to take that off the money and out of the national anthem (a world without God is an evil place) 2) life, the liberals are pro abortion. I hope you do your research but they dismember the body piece by piece something that is out right crule. (If anyone had or knows anyone who had or has a fertility problem or a child that died L”A can never understand how one can even think of doing this) if one does not want the baby put it up for adoption (I know people looking that are desperate) but to kill? 3) helping people to self support them selves is the greatest for of the tzedaka, biden wants to make people dependent not independent (surly to secure a vote and use these unfortunate people). 4) safety, letting in illegal people is no mitzvah (sometimes you get good people) as many times dangerous people come and therfore letting people come in only legally is no aveira at all. On the contrary it saves people as well as it will cost you less by keeping bad people out you will not need to support these illegal immigrants in jail. 5) he has helped the Jewish people regardless if we agree with their views or way of life. They are our brethren. Liberals have done the opposite. 6) taxes biden says he will raise taxes many families cannot afford (us jews need these breaks) 7) appointing judges. If biden gets in we may get liberal judges. Very bad.

    Now there are many more but if you or any people need more clarity on how to vote you may email me at [email protected]

    • 1 – God on the money has nothing to do with God. It is an anachronism, and it makes no difference to us at all. America as a religious country is no better for us than America as a secular country.

      2. All Americans are pro-abortion, polls have over 75% support. That ship has sailed already.

      3. You seem to misunderstand the concept of welfare and safety net. The entire country gains when the poor have basic needs met. Trickle down economic policy has been proven to hurt most of the population, besides the top 1% who don’t need the help.

      4. Letting illegal people in? What does that even mean? They are illegal because you don’t let them in. People desperate for help, in the richest country on earth, why shouldn’t we try and help? How is it ok to close our ears and hearts to human beings, mothers and children, young men trying to work? Any illegal alien I know is hardworking and extremely reliable. Weed out criminals, by all means, but don’t close borders. And Trump’s policies show that he is against legal immigration too, as he tightens rules and places extra hurdles in people’s way.

      5. The Jewish people have been helped by many factors. Releasing one person from jail is not the entire Jewish people.

      6. Biden will raise taxes on the rich. Someone who is in that category, should vote against Biden. But most of us are not in that category, and Biden’s tax policy will not hurt us.

      7. Liberal judges will ensure that it will be easier for all of us to vote. Liberal judges will stop employers mistreating their employees. Liberal judges will ensure the air and water we breathe and drink will be safe. For matters relevant to us, liberal judges are better. For irrelevant issues, like same gender marriage etc, conservative ideologues may be better.

  56. SHLOIME, GET BACK IN TO SEDER! This is why you shouldn’t have a smartphone even with a filter. I don’t care if only the Lakewood scoop is unblocked. LOL!

  57. Politicians and pundits sell fear for votes. Media sells fear for clicks and dimes.
    Critical thinkers can recognize when their vote is based on fear. It means you bought the narrative and fake framing from your respective side.

    No, Biden is not the far left.
    No, Trump didn’t kill 220,000 ppl.

    But…if you make your decisions about who to trust from the media and politicians…who sell fear for your soul… you need to go back and rethink your views.

    The level of assumptions about politics and without actual investigation in the Frum community is understandable if you are in the bais medresh…but inexcusable if you use it as a club to bludgeon your fellow Jew.

    When Ben Shapiro says he is biased conservative…believe him.
    That does mean you should run to Rachel Maddow…but it does mean you should investigate the issues yourself not through media reporting or the other sides attacks but actually reading their policies. Actually listening to the experts and actually asking yourself…

    Were you sold fear that is fake news???

    • Trump didn’t kill 220,000 people. Right. But his method of setting policies, haphazardly and without nuance understanding or details, certainly is to blame for a large amount of those deaths.

      This is quite easy to figure out.

      And no, we wouldn’t specifically need a Democrat to do a better job than him. Bush and Raegan would also have done so. Although I personally think Obama would have been better than both. But Trump is a buffoon, a caricature of a President in a bad comedy show. And that is why so many people unnecessarily died.

        • The policy of not treating this like an emergency from the beginning.
          Waiting until people were actually dying and the virus was all over to start vamping up PPE production.
          The policy of telling people that it is no big deal, it is going away soon.
          The policy of publicly ignoring medical advice to stop shaking hands and keep away from people.
          The policy of promoting questionable therapies instead of telling people to listen to medical advice.
          The policy of making the reaction political, encouraging his supporters to ignore medical advice.

  58. You need to be out of your mind to vote for a guy who is corrupt to the hilt, aside from the fact that his brain is melting. Some say, ‘Well, he’s a decent guy, so why not?’ The truth is he’s anything but that. After his wife and daughter were killed in a tragic accident in 1972, he needed some sympathy (years later), so he concocted a story that the guy who hit them was drunk, and refused to back down from this lie for many, many years despite the family begging him to stop smearing an innocent man, who was cleared of all charges. He also lies time and again to the American people (take the fracking lie for example). And let’s not forget the stealing of millions through shady illegal deals, the unconscionable statement that he will not take “Trump’s vaccine,” putting the lives of millions of inane followers at risk. We can go on and on. If there is any president who deserves four more years, it is Donald Trump, who worked non-stop, kept even more promises than he made, and produced so much for the people. We owe him!

    • What is wrong with the Iran Deal?
      Right now, what stops Iran from producing nuclear weapons? When the deal was valid, they did not break it at all, as all independent observers stated.
      Now, America is relying on Europe to enforce the deal. And that is the policy of ‘America First”.

  59. If you think it was so important for you to tell everyone whom you were voting for, why didn’t you put your name down? I guess you don’t have the guts.

    Can you please explain how you are voting for candidates who stand for everything that is 180° against the Torah? As a prominent Rov whom I recently heard speak said, if you want to know what the Democrat party platform is, open up a chumash to Parshas Achray Mos and Kedoshim, whatever you see the Torah say לא, the Democrats stand for the opposite.There are other examples also not located there, such as baby murder.

    I don’t know about you, but in the history of the USA, especially the recent history of the last 120 years, there aren’t too many presidents that we’ve had who have been malochim (angels). Predominantly the ones who have fallen into this category happen to be Democrats, FDR had his pilegesh as did JFK and Bill Clinton. On the other side, they were other issues perhaps. I don’t know about you, but I’m not voting for Trump, nor did for Trump four years ago because of his mouth how he said things etc. It was because he was going to get them done. Granted four years ago was a question because he really didn’t have a record to run on per se however, now after 4 years he does have a record to run on and I am definitely voting for him again!

    If baffles me completely how someone can say that they are orthodox and still vote for the Democrat Party. I think if you vote for Biden Harris, you really need to check your ancestry because I’m sure there’s something wrong there some place.

    • It baffles ME how a religious Jew can vote for a president whose words and actions go directly against the Torah. Adultery, cheating, lying, stealing (from a childrens cancer charity among others), name-calling, bullying, insulting women, inciting violence. Need more? It is you who are the hypocrite.

      • He was not accused of stealing, that is false. the rest are not sheva mitzvos.

        The bigger issue is Biden sold out the country to its greatest geopolitical threat

  60. Would you vote for Kamala Harris? Not likely Biden will make it through all 4 years. Besides Kamala…think about who she will choose as VP when she takes over.

  61. Chaim

    What utter nonsense. On virtually every single issur in Acharei both parties are in complete agreement.

    And did you know that it’s perfectly legal and protected to set up an Avoda Zara in middle of Times Square and bow down to it all day??
    Does that bother you??

    You want torah values?
    The democrats are the party that isn’t obsessed with their selfish selves.
    VeAhavtam es Hager
    Helping others that are less fortunate.
    I don’t know what torah you have but these are pretty important concepts to Hashem.

    • Geirim could not own land in Eretz Yisroel. Republicans give more charity than Democrats, that is a documented fact. Democrats like to re-distribute others money, because it gives them power

  62. it is pretty simple. trump has been prez for 4 years. we pretty much have a feel on what he is going to do in the next 4 years if he is reelected. on the other hand, when you listen to him speak it is very clear that on multiple issues he himself doesn’t really know what he is going to do. so if you want the overall policies to change then vote for biden. you know it is going to change a lot when the minority woke fraction of the left has a very big voice. but if you like the lower taxes the booming stock market anti abortion etc then vote for trump.

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