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Oy vey!
1 month ago

This is the Agenda of 1 and not to be confused with any gedolim standing behind this. Our great leaders today put their name to anything they want sent or said in their name. They never say things anonymously. Shame on the writer for trying to push a personal agenda by claiming anonymous rabbinical support. I for one didn’t even read any of this because it’s coming from a dark place and not with pure intentions.

That being said, this is a beautiful topic that husbands and wives should together understand and from their own inner strength adhere to as a way of serving Hashem. All the credit goes to such couples for being true to each other and true to Hashem. Be proud and stand tall. Know that your commitment to covering hair properly is bringing incredible zechusim to you and all of us in Klal Yisroel. You are truly special.

At the same time if you struggle in this area, and are working to be stronger, Hashem still loves you and is proud of you and you are not the cause of anything bad no matter what letter writers like this try to make you feel even in a round about way.

Not an agenda at all
Reply to  Oy vey!
1 month ago

Maybe read the article before you start spouting how this is an “agenda”.
Everything in this article is Torah sourced and true.
Anything that is true but makes people uncomfortable gets labeled an “agenda” today because it’s easier to call something crazy than admit that it is correct and then have to make changes in oneself.
And how do you know the intention of the writer??
Your comment is clearly coming from a dark place and also an ignorant one as you didn’t even read the article!

Anon
Reply to  Not an agenda at all
1 month ago

But it says on the bottom of the flier that t was published at the request of Gedolei Rabbanim. Who are these Gedolei Rabbanim? Why didn’t they sign their name endorsing this and stating that they want it made available for the public? That’s what oy vey! was asking.

Chaim
1 month ago

Extremely twisted click bait. Its not community asked questions. Its one question About shaitels and one person’s agenda to stop it. Stop with the clickbait!!

Not clickbait but finally a truthful education!
Reply to  Chaim
1 month ago

These are questions that many women have about this topic (I myself had all these questions and I wore a long wig.
The article is intelligent, educational and sourced.
Bh an article is being posted that actually explains this sensitive and confusing topic correctly with actual Torah sources!
Hopefully it will inspire women to improve their kisui rosh, an area that needs huge improvement in our times.
This article is beautifully written and does not attack anyone, only the comments here do that!

Proudly, Efraim rosenblatt
1 month ago

Why don’t you sign your name? Oh, cause your wife wears a long sheitel

Don’t be so proud
Reply to  Proudly, Efraim rosenblatt
1 month ago

Efraim,

אל תסתכל בקנקן אלא במה שיש בו. Why in the world is a name important (so you can attack), the content has sources that can be looked up. There are THE POSKIM on all matters of the TORAH.

Leibel
1 month ago

Sounds like propaganda by the tichel lobby.

The wigs are propaganda!
Reply to  Leibel
1 month ago

I would say the sheitel propaganda greatly outweighs any other propaganda- have you seen all the sheitel ads promoting stunning, natural wigs that cost $4,000- $6,000??
Talk about pushing an agenda!
Halevi married Jewish women would wear tichels, our streets would actually look modest and frum women would actually look like they were married instead of looking like they had nicer hair than their single daughters. I actually think all the sheitels should be donated to the single girls to help them in shidduchim (they would all look much more attractive with their mothers wigs on than with their own hair!). This might help the shidduch crises!
And think of all the tzedakah organizations that could be helped with all the money that could go to them instead of to these ridiculous wigs…

Kate
Reply to  The wigs are propaganda!
1 month ago

Or donate those wigs to women who have lost their hair due to chemo.

Question
1 month ago

Not one commentator has addressed the content of this letter. But just simply attack the hundreds of people try to shift the standards. There are sources to everything. Why can’t people come to terms that unfortunately as a community we have a lot to improve in this department.

marc
Reply to  Question
1 month ago

Rav Aharon Kotler’s wife , daughter of Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer, wore a nice shaitel. If you don’t (want to) believe it, there is a picture of her in the biography written by Rabbi Yitzchok Dershowitz, a close talmid. .
Don’t switch the topic to the length of the shaitel or to how real it looks. This post was declaring all shaitels improper. and that is an affront to the many Gedolim who’s wives wore them. And that includes virtually every member of the Moetzes!

Miriam
Reply to  marc
1 month ago

Uh no- read the article.
It is explaining how because of advanced technology the wigs today look nothing like the wigs our grandmothers wore (and please don’t insult Rebbetzin Kotler by saying she wore a nice wig- her wig looked NOTHING like the wigs of today and she most probably would not have worn any of the current wigs).
Wigs today are worn by Hollywood actresses and are fashion and beauty accessories only worn to enchance a womans appearance to men- and as explained very well in the article, this is the exact opposite of the purpose of this commandment. A married woman is meant to look more modest than a single girl with her head covering, not the same and not more attractive.
The historical facts in the article about how wigs came about are all totally accurate- they were a breach from the mesorah of wearing cloth head coverings. And they were a major halachic dispute, with many major Gedolim forbidding them. Certainly no posek would have ever allowed today’s wigs which don’t look remotely like head coverings- but hair replacements!

Feitel Fishel
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

Learn Chazal for examples of women attaching wigs to their hair

Thoughtful
Reply to  Feitel Fishel
1 month ago

Some comments are just that……..וכסיל לא יבין את זאת
the foolish attempt to understand one minute detail…..

Marc
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

But the article strongly stated that even the shaitel worn by Rebbitzen Kotler was a deviation from mesorah and she should have worn a tichel.That is chutzpah and bezayon Hatorah.

Objective
Reply to  marc
1 month ago

This article is quoting virtually all the MAJOR POSKIM of the last decades and you are frantically searching for a picture of more than half a century ago to justify your Yeitzer Hara……Seforim speak about such people, who use their Daas to justify their heart- Nebech…..

Huh??
Reply to  Objective
1 month ago

That’s an blindside insult. Let me remind you that Yidden, zaydies, bubbies, rabbonim were photographed with their wives and families. Just because they’ve eliminated women from newspapers, weeklies, etc lately, doesn’t make it normal.

Dress modestly- you’ll be in the media
Reply to  Huh??
1 month ago

You are going down a rabbit hole….save yourself and stop…the reason why women are no longer in media is because objectively we all know that the standards are provocative and very questionable.

Feh
Reply to  Objective
1 month ago

Virtue all the poskim somehow doesn’t include igros Moshe. Strange.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Feh
1 month ago

Feh,

כשמו כן הוא, that seems to be the only Tahuvah you know. Well R’ Moshe wrote thousands of Tshuvos and those familiar with them and have an overview allowing them to apply the psak to today’s situation are the ones speaking out loud and clear about the total disregard of Tznius. Yes, R’ Moshe was matir the wigs of decades ago not ones being worn by the most denigrated and immoral models and actresses…..Feh, Feh and Feh…….

feh
Reply to  Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
1 month ago

And yet this letter writer saw no reason to be misyaches to that teshuvah. Isn’t that weird?
Why do you think that’s the only teshuvah I know? Would you like to hock about his corporations teshuvah here? What shaychus do other teshuvos have to this discussion?

Ben Torah- in a Sheitel free workplace- TYH!!!!!!!
Reply to  feh
1 month ago

The Igoros Moshe has many Teshuvos regarding Tznius- the Sheitels (Ervah exposed) of today are major issues for many reasons….who exactly are we fooling?!

Has anybody read what the Non-Jews are writing about the Sheitels being worn?! Why are they using real Nivul Peh about it?!

What are we waiting for?!

Not ok to post negative comments here
1 month ago

Please remove this excellent article if you are going to print negative comments mocking what is actually the emes.
This is not acceptable to the author of this article.
Thank you

Thomas Paine

The purpose of writing something like this is to foster debate. If the author didn’t want to hear the opinions of others they would have kept this in their head.

Thoughtful
Reply to  Thomas Paine
1 month ago

Hi Thomas,

The purpose of such an article is not to foster debate, but rather to educate the population of the objective opinion of those who know the Torah in its entirety, the Torah view that we all agree is the absolute TRUTH and Blueprint of ETERNAL Life. The subjective opinion of laymen who know less than 1% of what these Holy Torah Giants knew and understood, is virtually meaningless. It’s a fundamentally sore point that our standards are highly problematic and a terrible Chilul Hashem. But, the fist step in all change is contemplation- coming to terms that we have a MAJOR PROBLEM.

shmendrick
Reply to  Thoughtful
1 month ago

Anything that doesn’t have the name of a rav or the name of the person voicing their opinion, is all about the nasty comments. There’s a reason even at the Adirei Torah event, which supposedly is for Americas leading bnei torah, this major affront on Torah doesn’t even get touched? It’s not a realistic discussion for a blog, considering no one will discuss it in public. If the biggest lakewood torah event doesn’t call for an opportunity to address the supposed biggest affront on Torah ever, nothing does.

Ben Torah- in a Sheitel free workplace- TYH!!!!!!!
Reply to  shmendrick
1 month ago

At this point- out of desperation, your comments are simply incoherent…..

David Koresh
1 month ago

It’s nothing but control and everyone knows it.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  David Koresh
1 month ago

Shameless Dave,

Did you read the article or just regurgitated that foolish comment?

What blatant audacity you have to utter such shameless words about the Torah pillars of the last century…..Koresh or more like Korach….

Rav Ephraim Wachsman shlita supports this....
1 month ago

It is just amazing how quick everyone is to label anyone that says one word about tichels/wig as having an “agenda”.
It is so obvious that the truth hurts!
As Rav Ephraim Wachsman shlita stated so eloquently at a massive asifa in lkw a few years ago after the Har Nof massacre (the full speech could be heard on Inspire by Wire):
“There is a group of women who decided they want to wear tichels as often as they can, whenever they have the opportunity, rather than wear the sheitel. We have to be mechazek them! They’re not extreme, they’re not fanatics, they’re not the Taliban. People who use such terms, they use it just to validate themselves so they shouldn’t have to confront the emes. These nashim tzidkaniyos are pashut women who went through our chinuch. They went through our Bais Yaakovs, they were mekabel the mesora al pi derech hamesora from tzaddikim and gedolei Yisroel. They were taught to live with the truth and to respect the truth. And they looked at these sheitels and they said to themselves- this contradicts my values, this is not emes, this is hypocrisy, this is not yiras shamayim. And we should admire them and we should aspire to their level of yiras hamayim…”

Salad1

Don’t belittle or insult
women who wear wigs al pi their mesorah. Are you taking responsibility in determining who has or doesn’t have yiras shomayim ? It’s arrogance.

A sheitel is not a “mesorah”!
Reply to  Salad1
1 month ago

Please read the article!
It explains quite clearly how there is no “mesorah” to wear a sheitel.
Rav Shlomo Miller shlita told me this directly as well.

Salad1

How far does a mesorah have to go, 5,000 years ? If your grandparents and people in their shtetl had a custom – maybe a directive or permit from a rav, then my mesorah begins there.

Halibut tails
Reply to  Salad1
1 month ago

Correct. Chassidic rebbes began mesorahs followed by their chassidim , and the thing is only some 250 old.

Long time Shadchan

Why is Reb Wachsmans speech on the internet after Citifield Asifa?

! סתירה מינה וביה

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Long time Shadchan
1 month ago

Stay away from this supposed (unemployed) long time Shadchan…..

Voos Tutsach
1 month ago

What live gedolim put their signatures to this?

Attention All Well Meaning Yidden
1 month ago

Attention Holy and Pure Yidden,

Don’t even bother listening to the meaningless rants of those who are entrapped in the web of Midas Letzanus. They are incapable of listening and understanding anything truthful.

Read the article for yourself. This article is quoting ALL OUR GEDOLAI HAPOSKIM- the HOLY TZADDIKIM who are THE one we follow in virtually ALL MATTERS of TORAH- from Hilchos Shabbos, Niddah and everything in between. Nobody had the audacity to argue or even express an opposing opinion to these giants of who virtually all matters of Halacha stands.

Our “Modest Sheitels” are now being featured on platforms and places that are truly dark- worn by women who stand for the ultimate immodesty.

All well meaning Yidden understand this to be true and are struggling how to reestablish our TORAH STANDARDS.

Simply read the words of OUR GEDOLAI OLAM and ALLOW their CRIES full of foresight to Penetrate our collective hearts.

To more we move towards KEDUSHA the better it will be….HEALTH, SHALOM BAYIS, PARNASSA and the ULTIMATE GEULA are dependent on this painful and pivotal reality that separates US from the Nations of the world…….

Avraham Avinu stepped forward separating himself…..we must walk in his footsteps and return to who we are as a HOLY NATION!

Feitel Fishel

First let’s fix luxus and luxury living, spending on these like water. Avraham Avinu? Ok, he lived in a tent.

Ronny S.
1 month ago

People need to mind their own business and their own yiddishkeit ,before preaching. Women , whatever they’re wearing are mostly following in their mothers’ mesorah and if the father was good with it, then it’s his too. Cost of sheitels ? Fair point. Now how about cost of shtreimels AND Borsolina hats.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Ronny S.
1 month ago

Ron,

Did you read the article- it sources from ALL MAJOR POSKIM. WHO exactly are you criticizing?!

Maybe get busy with assisting in bringing down the cost of Streimels…..

shmendrick
Reply to  Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
1 month ago

Not a single LAkewood posek or rav is mentioned. Just curious. BTW, I believe in shorter wigs.

Long time Shadchan
1 month ago

This article will definitely result in many more exquisite shaitels being bought and sold.

With this article, You basically sold the young and not so young woman the longest and largest wigs by telling them that men will reward them by gazing at them if they invest in a nice wig.

Does the writer of this article own a wig buisness and sales are down? Can I go in partnership with you , cause sales will certainly be up thanks to this.

Nice going !

TG9
1 month ago

The Beis Hamikdash wasn’t destroyed because of shaytles or tichles. It was destroyed because of sinas chinom and this kind of holier than thou attitude reeks from it. Let’s tolerate each other’s customs without resorting to denigration. Shame on it.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  TG9
1 month ago

Open up a Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur Machzur and see the Teffillah to be recited during Umipnei Chataeinu……..

shmendrick
Reply to  Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
1 month ago

What about Umipnei Chataeinu recited during Musaf of teh Shalosh Regalim?

Wigs cause sinas chinam
Reply to  TG9
1 month ago

Immodesty is the worst form of sinas chinam. When a woman dresses immodestly and causes men to look, she is ruining their olam hoba and destroying their shalom Bayis. The biggest chesed a woman could do is to help men from stumbling in the area of shmiras ainayim. It is their responsibility to be careful in how they dress (obviously men need to work on guarding their eyes), and they can’t just walk around saying – well the men shouldnt look.
The wigs are incredibly attracting and they beautify married women making them look more attractive to men.
i think people should read the whole article before posting comments!
All these points are explained very well in the article.

Rachel
Reply to  Wigs cause sinas chinam
1 month ago

Let’s not victim shame here, men cause men to look. Don’t you dare blame a woman who wears a sheitel that she costs men their Olam haba. As much as tznius is for the woman, men should keep their eyes to themselves. If it’s so bad that they can’t control themselves, they shouldn’t be outside,

Wrong Rachel
Reply to  Rachel
1 month ago

You clearly have no concept about how men work (and what tznius means). A man is affected by everything he sees. A frum woman should have the understanding that she needs to do everything in her power to ensure that she does not leave her house wearing anything that might cause a man to notice her and sin. It is HER responsibility to help protect men from stumbling.
If the wig she is wearing causes men to notice her more, than yes she is responsible for causing men to lose their olam hoba (wether you like this or not)

shmendrick
Reply to  Wrong Rachel
1 month ago

Women are attracted to everything they see as well. Including all the things men insist women wear. Yes the very clothing you are wearing is designed by a man wjo wants you to wera it for him.Yes, your husband wants you to wear the long Shaitl. He wants you to not dress in themost Tzniusdik way. Because he wants a trophy wife. Ask all the marriage counselors and therapists in Lakewood.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Rachel
1 month ago

The Chofetz Chaim wrote an entire Sefer devoted to the topic of Tznius for women. He doesn’t write once about a man’s responsibility to “not look” as being some excuse for women. He states it’s the responsibility of a husband to relay the terrible punishment that awaits in the next world.

The Tzaddik that doesn’t look is referring to a specific street / once a week that was used by women to do laundry, not neighborhoods, workplaces and supermarkets.

Your comment is a reflection of the secular influence that has made heavy inwards to our community- in thought and DRESS. Too many women are disconnected from Torah truths. Life isn’t a guessing game- we have a Torah that guides us through this confusing world- and by and large the female population has lost their way due to the horrendous influence of social media that is OBSESSED with outer appearance.

Women walk to Tekias Shofar dressed like models- is it a Zechus to be Mikayim a Miztvah that one isn’t obligated while trampling on the most foundational mitzvah for women, akin to Limud HaTorah.

Keep Your Glamorous Sheitel- wear it inside for your husbands only. Do you part in protecting him spiritually in a world gone mad. Every Kallah circled her Chassin seven times commiting herself to be his barrier and spiritual protection. There is an eerie parallel that is taking place in our community to the tekufa prior to the Beis Yaakov movement. Then women lacks a Jewish education not they heavy lack the ability to MAINTAIN it in a world that has drifted far off……

shmendrick
Reply to  Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
1 month ago

Chas V’shalom to sound like I’m trying to contradict the Chofetz Chaim ZATZAL, but if you look at history and Piskei Halacha you will find some very interesting things. Including the fact that the chofetz Chaim used a Kos for Kos SHel Beracha that according to his own P’sokin wasn’t even a Shiur. There are many such Piskei Halachs from many gedolim and Poskim throughout history. Tznius is the achrayus of both men and women. Both are rqually responsible. The Chinuch states clearly on Lo Sasuru that it’s for both men and women. Are you saying the Chofetz Chaim doesn’t hold of o Sasuru? A Deoiraysa? Everyone needs to have a Rav and Posek who isn’t afraid to tell them right from wrong. The vast majority of Rabanim today won’t even mention the posibility that missing the first Z’man Krias Sh’ma is a possible Deoiraysa. You think they are going to the mispalelim in their shul that they are Poiretz geder in hilchos Tznius? Even before the shaitl, the teenagers.

It is what it is
Reply to  Wigs cause sinas chinam
1 month ago

You need to go back to the core of the problem. The author is comparing apples to oranges by putting out an article that the rabbis of yesteryear were against wigs. But the women in those generations were not the breadwinners or professionals of their home. They were naturally modest because they stayed at home raising their kids while their husbands were out working.

Do you really expect the women from today to not go out put together looking like the professionals the yeshiva world promote them to be? The yeshiva world made them immodest by sending them out to work which in itself is against Torah values. And if you want to give heter to that then you can also give heter to them wearing wigs. Case closed.

Miriam
Reply to  It is what it is
1 month ago

Two wrongs don’t make a right!
Even if it’s not ideal for women to be working and not home, does this mean they should also be out and about looking immodest?
That’s even worse because many women work in offices with men, they should be striving to be more modest in the workplaces.
Everyone knows about the major issues that could come about from men and women working together (there are tons of books now with gadarim for this situation).
Bedavka women should be extra modest at work, where many men see them and interact with them. There should be a movement to keep the wig and at home (like in the times of the Gemara). Imagine how much easier it would be for the men if women wore tichels to work!

It is what it is
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

I’ll tell you a little secret. Even a very modest woman with a tichel working in a company with men is not tznius and as long as she’s a woman, a man will have an inclination to approach her. Two wrongs don’t make a right. However, my one right of keeping women out of work all together will solve all the problems including yours. And your one right of putting a tichel on a woman’s head will not solve anything. Hair or no hair is not what entices a man. It’s the opposite gender that entices him.

Miriam
Reply to  It is what it is
1 month ago

You’re right- it’s not okay for men and women to be working together. It’s not tznius and it’s a setup for many problems.
But this is unlikely to change at this point – the whole Torah world is currently set up with the women working and the men learning.
So until this is changed at least women should try to take steps to downplay their appearance in mixed environments. You are wrong about hair- hair (fake or not) entices men. You want to argue with the Torah? There are multiple sources in the Torah how hair is one of the most beautifying parts of a woman (Rav Falk zt”l wrote about it in his sefer). There is a reason why wigs and hair extensions are so popular among non Jews now- they are one of the most popular beauty and fashion accessories. Every woman knows hair is transformational.
Wearing a tichel in a workplace would help, it would not be nearly as enticing as a woman wearing a wig.

It is what it is
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

As the saying goes, if you put a suit on a monkey it’s still a monkey. If you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig. If you put a woman in the workplace where the men belong she’s still a woman. You cannot demand a woman to act as if she’s not one. A woman needs to feel good about herself and part of that is dressing properly. A man will be enticed as long as she’s a woman whether or not she has wig on her head. Stop blaming the women.

Miriam
Reply to  It is what it is
1 month ago

A man will be way more enticed if a woman is wearing a wig to work than a tichel.
Arguing with this is futile. Every woman knows that she looks more attractive in a wig than a scarf. And every man knows that a woman in a scarf looks more modest (and clearly married).
A married woman should be dressing up at home, that’s where she should be wearing a wig. Why does she need to dress up at work where other men see her?
It’s upside down today! Women dress up for the streets and work where many men see them and at home they look like shmattes. It should be the opposite.

Yem
Reply to  Wigs cause sinas chinam
1 month ago

What do you mean modesty? You determined that a certain style of sheitel is immodest? Thousands wearing a sheitel whose husbands , even big talmidei chachomim, approve, and yoh judge?

Miriam
Reply to  Yem
1 month ago

People on this site did not determine that.
Great Gedolim determined that.
The quotes in the article from Rav Elyashiv zt”l and the other Poskim are all sourced and legitimate. There are recordings of these Gedolim talking about the wigs including one from Rav Elyashiv himself saying that even Roshei yeshivos and talmidei chachamim are failing with the wigs (you actually see and hear Rav Elyashiv saying this in the video).
Besides, it is so obvious to anyone that thinks about it, if the same wigs that frum women are wearing are being featured in pritzus non Jewish magazines and on goyish runways – then clearly the wigs today are not being worn by anyone for “modesty”.
It’s the biggest scam ever. Because there is so much money involved now and unfortunately a lot of this money goes to fund frum organizations and yeshivas everyone is scared to say a negative word about the sheitel industry.
But we need the truth to come out otherwise this churban with the wigs will only continue.

shmendrick
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

Goyim aren’t designing the wig industry. That’ total nonsense.

Miriam
Reply to  shmendrick
1 month ago

I think you should open up a history book and check how the first wigs were invented.
Certainly not by Jews! Egyptians invented the first wigs, and they invented them to be worn for fashion, beauty and status. As a matter of fact, Cleopatra and all the Egyptian queens asked to be buried in their wigs so they could take their beauty in to the next world. This could be read in history books.
How ironic is this- we Jews left Egypt because we did not copy their immoral and immodest dress, and here we are thousands of years later wearing the very immodest item they invented in a much more immodest way (the wigs today are so natural looking, way worse than the Egyptians wigs).
Sheitel companies sell the same wigs to frum women and to actresses. I have seen videos of actresses coming to frum sheitel companies to pick out wigs to wear in movies! And they weren’t even buying long ones. They just wanted a different beautiful “look” for the movie. There are multiple articles in non jewish fashion magazines about how wigs are all the craze in Hollywood and they list places where to get the best and most natural looking wigs- and guess what names they write?
Frum sheitel companies
How is this is not a huge chillul Hashem??

TG9
Reply to  Wigs cause sinas chinam
1 month ago

Did you ever consider that women want to look attractive for themselves and yes, even to other women because that’s a woman’s mindset. But you’re choshed it’s for men. The Netziv writes that the sinas chinom at that time was that big rabbonim dissed others , called them apikorsim, and insulted their Torah psaks because they didn’t approve.. Even some LESHEM SHOMAYIM. It makes no difference. Each side can rely on their rabbaim and just leave everybody alone.

shmendrick
Reply to  TG9
1 month ago

The men want their wife to look attractive at all times. As I stated elsewhere on this current article, ask the Lakewood marriage counselors and therapists. They will tell you the women mostly dress the way they do at the request and insistance of their husband. The men want their wife to be the best looking on the block, in shul, at every simcha. then they complain about the tznius issues. Ask them and they will tell you.

Chassan Rebbe / Shalom Bayis
Reply to  TG9
1 month ago

It is IRRELEVANT what her intentions are. The reality is WOMEN are appealing to men hence ALL the Halachos of TZNIUS. Do you think Men are enjoying FEELING ATTRACTED to WOMEN against their own desire due to them presenting themselves in MALE ENVIRONMENT like that.

shmendrick
Reply to  Wigs cause sinas chinam
1 month ago

Men who are holier then Torah cause sinas chinam!!!!

gggg
1 month ago

Did R’ Moshe say nothing on this? Does the article reference him at all?

Zaidy WHO?
Reply to  gggg
1 month ago

Obviously he didn’t make it onto the anonymous writer’s list of ALL poskim.

Propaganda vs truth
1 month ago

We are all aware of Gedolim and chashuvim whose wives wear/wore sheitelach.
True halachic discussions, as appear in teshuvos or nosei keilim in shulchan aruch, give credence to all shittos, and then the posek will express why he believes his approach is correct. However, propaganda discounts and discredits all other opinions. In fact a propagandist cannot bring up dissenting views, as that would undermine their predetermined goals.
My friends, it appears we’ve just been presented with propaganda!

Miriam
Reply to  Propaganda vs truth
1 month ago

One does not look to the wives of Rabbanim to determine what is correct or not. There was a time period when many chashuv women including wives and rebbetzins of Rabbanim and talmidei chachamim didn’t cover their hair at all! Should we learn from that as well?
This article explained everything quite clearly and presents the whole picture (including historical facts) of what is a very confusing topic for many. The sources are all there, so this would not be considered propaganda. Propaganda is telling people to follow what wives of Rabbanim do without properly educating themselves about a topic.

The Peaked Cap
1 month ago

The Shulchan Aruch, or the Rema on Shulchan Aruch, permits saying berachos in front of a lady wearing a wig.
The Magen Avraham writes clearly that this means that she is permitted to wear a wig in public.
This is the paskened halacha in the Shulchan Aruch Harav, and the Mishna Berura quotes it. The Mishna Berura adds that this is only in a country where people are accustomed to do so.

The idea that the normative halacha is against wearing sheitels is just plain wrong. Sad that populist movements are beginning to replace halachic reasoning.

Wrong accusation
Reply to  The Peaked Cap
1 month ago

I think you need to read the article again.
it explains quite clearly that the sheitel was a halachic debate (totally accurate) and how the wigs of today are not modest.
it doesn’t say anywhere that wigs are all forbidden.
so you are writing something inaccurate.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  The Peaked Cap
1 month ago

What a Chutzpah you little foolish ignoramus!
These MAJOR POSKIM knew your little and limited knowledge. You’re forever posting the same content. They are the last MAJOR POSKIM to have expressed their Torah opinion on the matter and it is BINDING for ALL OF US!!!

Who exactly permits these wigs. There is a Rav in Lakewood who “supposedly” permits them. I personally went to ask him his opinion on the matter. He was horrified that people are using his name to be matur this dreadful “Mesorah”…..and added that he is convinced the horrendous standards are the main factors contributing to the increased divorce rate R”L….

Chassan Rebbe / Shalom Bayis
Reply to  The Peaked Cap
1 month ago

The wigs once debated are no longer available on the market- they are in museums. The ones on the market today are not wigs- for all practical purposes they are Hair exposed. I’ve heard from multiple Yirei Shamayim / Talmidai Chichomim that they do not make Kiddush / Bracha facing any married women in a Sheitel- because it causes Hihurei Aveira….plain and simple. The once theoretical debate has long set sailed.

Who is driving the horrendous Sheitel industry- and can one imagine the spiritual destruction they will be liable when it will be too late to rectify.

People are coming to their senses and entering the “contemplation” phase.

As a community we will one day look back at this shameful time and compare it to prewar Lithuania when this Chiyuv was disregarded as well as the early 20th century when Shabbos was ignored. Even these few unfortunate Letzanim and stone hearted TLS commentators will one day be inspired to do the will of Hashem…..

Shliach
1 month ago

Reb Shlomo Zalman was very upset at the misquotes in his name. He never said this Moshiach business, and it is totally out of character for him.
Why are these campaigns based on lies?

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Shliach
1 month ago

Yes, you are right that it would seem outside his character, as was R’ Eliyshuv. But, there are other very reliable quotes and stories that confirm his intolerance to this tremendous breach in Tznius. Anybody with true Hahavas Hashem would understand.

There are no lies in this article
Reply to  Shliach
1 month ago

The quote from Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach Zt”l is from the book “The Unique Princess” by Rabbi and Rebbetzin Abramov. Their organization JME (Jewish Marriage Education) was founded under the guidance of Rav Elyashiv zt”l and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l (as stated in their books). All their books (including The Unique Princess) have the haskamos of Rav Elyashiv, Rav Zilberstein, Rav Auerbach etc… and all their teachings were in consulation with Rav Elyashiv and Rav Auerbach.
On page 105 of The Unique Princess it states:
“Maran Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l expressed the same concern. As he once put it to Rav Dan Segal, shlita: “They cover their hair, and then make every effort to make it look uncovered. Therefore, in my opinion this is a loathsome thing. But who can we talk to?” He also said that, when Mashiach comes, the first thing he’ll do is abolish the use of wigs (as quoted by his son-in-law shlita)…”
I had the zechus to take Rebbetzin Tehilla Abramov’s course (she is one of the first Rebbetzins to train Kallah teachers, starting over 40 years ago) and she confirmed that this comment is correct (Rabbi and Rebbetzin Abramov did speak directly to Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach many times about all matters).
So I would like to know how YOU know Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l never said this comment??
Did you speak to him directly about it??
Somehow I highly doubt it….

Where is this from?
1 month ago

I don’t know who wrote this but I was taught by my kallah teacher and other shiurim i heard before I got married – Wigs were worn way before the 1800.They were worn as far back as there is history.

Jews did not wear wigs until the 1800s
Reply to  Where is this from?
1 month ago

Wigs were worn by non Jews only throughout the centuries for fashion and beauty, they were not worn outside by Jewish women until the 1800s. Wigs were invented in Egypt by the immoral Egyptians for fashion (they shaved their heads because of lice and wanted to still look beautiful so they invented the idea of a wig), the first wigs can be seen in museums (Cleopatra and all the Egyptian queens wore wigs and according to history book the wigs contributed to their beauty). The wig trend continued in to the 17th and 18th century when wigs were all the fashion rage in Europe (again non Jews were the ones wearing wigs). As the article correctly explains, in the times of the gemara Jewish women wore wigs (really hair pieces called a peah nachris) in their homes only, to look nicer for their husbands only. They were not worn outside until the 1800s when Jewish women stopped covering their hair and some Rabbanim allowed the use of wigs to save the mitzvah of hair covering.
This became a big halachic debate with many poskim forbidding wigs (and these wigs were nothing like todays wigs- what would the poskim of those times say to todays sheitels! They would think no one was covering their hair!)
And of course today wigs are worn by orthodox jews and hollywood actresses and celebrities, something is clearly wrong.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Where is this from?
1 month ago

Your sources don’t pass the “reliability” test.

Long time Shadchan
1 month ago

There’s a recording I myself heard of Reb Reuven Feinstein saying how he felt his wife should not wear a wig because she was the daughter in law of R Moshe ZL.

So they went to R Moshe and he told his son
R’ Reuven that it’s her desicion and he should stay out of it.

But leave it to the agenda driven author of this article to not research this , and also to not present both sides.

Nauseous 🤮🤮🤮
Reply to  Long time Shadchan
1 month ago

Wow, you are DESPERATELY missing the point over and over and over!
Lets try again- the wigs currently on the market more recently are what are being worn and pursued by the most immoral and lowest- it’s intention is to draw and entice men…..apparently the common denominator between is they are both called wigs.

Miriam
Reply to  Long time Shadchan
1 month ago

Just the fact that Rav Reuven Feinstein felt that his wife shouldn’t wear a wig says it all…
And the wigs then looked nothing like todays wigs.

Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l wrote that kisui rosh is because of tznius, he was very on fire about this topic. He gave a heter in the 1950s (it was a heter, that does not mean that he felt wigs were the best to wear) at a time when many American women were not covering their hair, and the wigs were short, stiff and wiggy. This heter was given on an item that is entirely different from todays wigs. Most likely Rav Moshe would never allow todays wigs which make a mockery of this mitzvah and are not modest. Just writing that Rav Moshe allowed wigs is agenda driven and not presenting the whole picture (which people are happy to do so they could continue wearing their immodest wigs without guilt).

The Gedolim quoted in the article lived more recently and were aware of the more current wigs. Rav Elyashiv zt”l stated 20 years ago in a public speech that the wigs of today are erva (I have the recording and it is very audible). Rav Elyashiv was aware of how the wigs looked and he did not allow them. There is another video where he stated that even Roshei yeshivos and tamidei chachamim are failing in this area, and how can we fix it. There are signed letters by Rav Elyashiv and many other great Gedolim stating how the modern wigs are a breach of tznius and incite the yetzer hora of men more than hair. They also encouraged the wearing of cloth head coverings, praising women that were returning to the true mesorah of the Jewish women.

This is the emes.

Chassan Rebbe / Shalom Bayis
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

Every HONEST Man knows this to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

The pitiful men denying this reality are either physically unhealthy, living in denial or most importantly- hiding dark secrets. One thing is for sure- they are some KEDUSH V’TEHUR……they can fool woman (as they probably do) but REAL MEN are living in a REALITY that is EMBRACED by the TORAH!!!

Wishing all of those souls- a combination of a Refua Shleima and a Hiroreres Tshuvah….

Long TIme Shadchan
Reply to  Miriam
1 month ago

My mother was very in style when she got married back in the 60s, and in the wedding album, I see pictures of her wig, and that was the style of the times. We don’t care for them today because they had a different style than today. Nothing to do with the current extra glamour.

R. Elyashiv has not been around for 15 years, and in his later years, the Kannaim were able to get him to say stuff. In 2004, they got him to rule against Wigs by using the old, tired Indian-Idol tonsuring thing, which R Moshe ZL was already Mattir many years before. It later turned out that they had to come and say that he was given insufficient information.

I am many days in a bagel place where many younger ones wearing newer wigs come in for their overpriced lattes and frappuccinos. It’s not caused me any bad thoughts yet. And regarding the other men? Well, everyone looks where they have to look and finished!

This pink, flowery article is another venomous and dangerous attempt at control by the radicals, and this time through the innocent woman, to try to create discord between husband and wife.

Married woman, please don’t fall for these destructive articles that are intended to guilt-trip you. If you have any questions, go with your husband together to your own Rav and have him guide you in this area.

Miriam
Reply to  Long TIme Shadchan
1 month ago

The wigs from the 1960s were not natural looking, they were very wiggy and any man could tell right away that a woman was wearing one.
There is nothing radical about this article, which merely explains a very misunderstood commandent and answers questions that many ask about kisui rosh. The fact that you and so many others feel so threatened by this pink, flowery article is very telling. It is almost humorous to call it venomous and a dangerous control by the radicals.

And mocking the avoda zora issue with the wigs shows how ignorant you are. A kol korei was published last year by prominent Roshei Yeshivas and poskim from America and EY (including Rav Wachtfogel shlita, Rav Kotler shlita, Rav Aaron Feldman shlita, Rav Shternbuch shlita, Rav Zilberstein shlita etc…) explaining how in light of new strong research about the human hair industry and the tonsuring/shaving of the head in India (which was proven to be an offering to an idol), the human hair wigs should not be worn as they are tikrovas avoda zora.
The wigs are pritzus and AZ- this is dangerous and destructive and should shake us up.
Not this article!

Ben Torah- in a Sheitel free workplace- TYH!!!!!!!
Reply to  Long TIme Shadchan
1 month ago

You have little to no Yiras Shamyim. The way you belittled THE פוסק הדור and then applied warped logic is reprehensible. You are a shameless Baal Taavah who is עתיד ליתן את הדין for being דוחה מאה תוכחות. May Hashem have mercy on your pitiful soul inspiring you to do Teshuva before your time expires on this world…..

You are obviously a very unlearned person to which Chazel apply the rule דעת בעל הבית הפיל דעת תורה….in your case בטלה מביא לידי שגיון וזימה…..

You are unable to differentiate between our Gedolai Haposkim who rendered Poskim that are binding to a local semi learned nice fellow who happens to lead a minyan of 25 random people. That nice individual is a few steps ahead but totally unqualified to render Poskim in any matter of Halacha- they simply qoute the very Poskim mention in this article, yet when it comes to the Yetzer Hara of TAAVAH- both for the women to look great in public and for men to downplay the avaira associated with just that- suddenly anybody able to say a Davar Torah for 5 minutes/weekly is a “Rav” and an authority. It is a joke, disgrace and an utter shame on us.

When we act like the nations of the world- they respond with hate…..reminding us that we are different. R’ Avadya Yosef- paskined it is Asur Medoreisa to wear today’s wig for this reason alone…..ובחוקותיהם לא תליכו…

It wouldn’t surprise me if many costumers of that infamous bagel store (where you supposed read Shidduch) get the creeps from you……

The “don’t look” can’t hide their secrets for very long……..

Responding to the unemployed Shadchin
Reply to  Long TIme Shadchan
1 month ago

You seem to dismiss valid Torah sources. Is the Chefetz Chaim a source reliable to you? I sure hope so- well the Chafetz Chaim writes in a letter printed at the end of his Sefer Geder Olam that when a married women exposed her hair it can was cause men to have inappropriate thoughts and can even lead to the avaira. Kol B’isha Ervah, Saar B’Isha Ervah- indecent exposure. Have you heard the famous story of RElya Lapian- the Rebbe of R’ Matisyahu Salamon who famously said that even in his eighties, blind in one eye- the sound of a woman walking awakens desire. You might simply have something wrong biologically, and are in desperate need of the care of a physician- first a psychiatrist (and then a urologist)……

Long TIme Shadchan

Responses coming soon to:

1-Rabbanit Miriam,

2. Unemployed Shadchan responder, and

3. Ben Torah/Shaitel free guy.

Hey, Mr. Nauseous, where did you go??

Hayse tay
1 month ago

How come nobody is mentioning that wives of many Litvish rabbonim in Europe ( and even in America) didn’t cover their hair at all.One of the biggest rav’s wife didn’t cover until they came to America.If you know, you know.

Tzvios alert
Reply to  Hayse tay
1 month ago

Yes, this is the silent huge elephant in this room.

Hayse tay
1 month ago

99% of Hollywood or ordinary non Jewish women don’t wear wigs at all , so where does this “immoral” come from? The LOOKERS don’t like long sheitels so they’re motzei shem ra.

joeschmo
1 month ago

Hey letter writer we know all the answers are yours so no need to change your name each time, save some time. Also if 99% of women are wearing shaitels, the woman who isn’t is sticking out, and that’s a lack of tznius as well.

Chassan Rebbe / Shalom Bayis
Reply to  joeschmo
1 month ago

Maybe read the letter that addresses your warped way of thinking….no the letter wasn’t written by myself. It was written by a group of תלמידי חכמים יראים ושלמים, a small part of the many men and women who yearn for us to return and do תשובה. There is virtually no Erlecha Yid today that isn’t repulsed by what is taking place in our neighborhoods, workplaces and Simchos. The only reason the Rabbonim are hesitant to express publicly what they all verbalize privately is due to the backlash of people like you- unfortunate souls enveloped by the Koach Hatuma…..

Optometrist
Reply to  joeschmo
1 month ago

Spot on. You nailed it, lol.

Ben Torah- in a Sheitel free workplace- TYH!!!!!!!
Reply to  Optometrist
1 month ago

Maybe take some time off from treating the physical eye to learn about its spiritual effects. The Heiliga Chofetz Chaim wrote a Sefer called Geder Olam where he explicitly says this isn’t true. But, you foolishly blurt out “you nailed it, lol”…..is that what Chazel mean when they say Rashaim (even Yeshivish looking attire) laugh until their last moment……but, when the lights go out- it is anything but a laughing matter. I’m just curious- do you people ever feel the desire to grow in Ruchnius or is your entire Yiddishkeit- מצות אנשים מלומדה….surety you can’t understand what the pure among us are pleading……you’ve never seen the light.

Tzvios alert
1 month ago

Wigs, tichels whatever. You want modesty? Send the husbands to work as kesubah mandated and keep the womenfolk at home. Ever thought about that ? Kol kevuda bas melech ….etc. Then please don’t preach.

Chassan Rebbe / Shalom Bayis
Reply to  Tzvios alert
1 month ago

Totally Agree!!!
Hindreds of men are desperately searching for jobs, while so many companies are desperate for female employees. In an attempt to increase LIMUD HATORAH the True Torah Lifestyle has been destroyed. Hashem doesn’t need us to protect his Torah- his will is for us to LIVE by His HOLY TORAH!!!

Let’s just enumerate the issues facing our communities and see how they are essentially pointing in a clear direction…

1) Hundreds (literally) of capable men are seeking Parnassa.

2) The Nashim Tzidkanius have lost their way regarding their foundational Mitzva and Chiyuv of Tznius in part to their exposure of social media and in general of making a life for themselves outside their homes- a disaster for Chinuch Hananim and Shalom Bayis.

This destruction is somewhat all in the name of Torah?!

Torah needs Kedusha and Yiras Shamayim, without it- the Hashpa of Torah is virtually inaccessible- see Ramchal Derech Hashem Chelek Daled….

I think it is time to dust off the Mesillas Yesharim and start living how Yidden have lived for the millennia…..

Ben Torah- in a Sheitel free workplace- TYH!!!!!!!
Reply to  Tzvios alert
1 month ago

Totally Agree!!!