Submitted: Advice Please

So I recently purchased a home in Jackson with a pool in a beautiful neighborhood with many Jewish families and many non-Jewish families. Friday afternoon enjoying the pool with my grandchildren back to back neighbor starts playing music very loud with major profanity and occasional ladies singing.

Do I have any recourse? What do the laws state about destroying the peace of others? Do I approach him directly or do I call the police and ask them to intervene? I do not want to make a chilul hashem.

Any advice?

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30 COMMENTS

  1. You don’t wanna cause a chillul hashem but you’re asking if you should CALL THE POLICE before confronting them cuz their music is too loud?!?!

    I would start by simply asking them if it’s ok (when they see you outside) to lower the music alittle bit and work from there.

    You don’t just call the police because you don’t like their playlist smh!

    Agav, I’d be careful starting a calling the police on your neighbor game because though I am sure you are amazing parents you’d be surprised to learn they can call on you too…

  2. Be smart and leave it alone. The neighbor was there first and you moved in. If anything be neighborly and friendly with them and after getting to know them and shmooziung themn up you canb mention to possibly lower the music. At NO point to you call the cops for playing music during the day.
    Kol Isha? Do you know what world we are living in? Welcome to the big world. Just get along with your neighbors. Be ‘M’iruv im habrioyos’ and yes we are still in Galus.

  3. Depending on the facts, you may have some recourse under Chapter 291 of the Township ordinance.

    My advice, don’t even mention (to the police or the neighbor) the issue of women singing. That’s not going to go over well.

    And, whatever you choose to do, you’ll probably make the neighbor dislike frum yidden (if they don’t already). That may be fine, so perhaps consult a Rav.

  4. It’s called Galus,Live & let live
    We make hachnosas Sefer Torah with loud music blocking streets,lag B’omer music playing late into the night & all neighbors irrelevant of background must live with it

  5. There are laws about how loud one can play music and it varies according to time of day. Consult the code department and find out first what is and what is not allowed.. You may be surprised to learn you have less recourse than you think. Then You can tactfully have an informed conversation with your new neighbor. (Emphasis on the tactful part). What they play is their choice though not yours. As previously noted in the comments Everyone has equal rights. They have the right to enjoy a Saturday afternoon BBQ in their yard with rock music playing. That’s life.

  6. Install your own music system for your family to enjoy. A good outdoor speaker installed will be 500-1000. You can bluetooth from a 24-6 or any music app.

  7. I’ve had this before, my hunch is the home is owned by an investor and rented to migrants

    Here’ s what I suggest.
    Buy a really pretty cake, bring it over and introduce yourself, ask them really nicely, say listen on Fridays at 2:00my grandchildren come, is there any possibilty of lowering the music? Youre not going to get them to stop completely but at the very least they may control it ( just wait til the shabbos parties come) it used to drive us crazy!
    and you can give a shoutout to the investors who only care about themselves.

  8. Perhaps (moderated) can pass a law making it illegal to play “Kol Isha” except with headphones.
    Which will pass first? This or school vouchers?

  9. Considering they are playing music during the daytime and in the comforts of their own home which you so happens to share a back fence with, no there is no recourse. I understand your trouble if your coming for a more insular community the change might be quite uncomfortable. Unfortunately you live in a world with free will. Your choice to not listen to goyish music or Kol isha is a stringency which you put upon yourself and which your non Jewish neighbors have no obligation to follow.

    • Why not just find out what musician your neighbor is listening to, buy a few of their albums and play them loud so the entire neighborhood can here the music. Maybe they will get the hint, or maybe you’ll make a new friend. As far as women singing, why not? Never heard of this being something that is frowned upon. Please elaborate. TY

  10. We are living in the world of our non-Jewish brothers and sisters. We must be an example to them of kindness to others, and we don’t have the right to give them mussar. Put yourself in their shoes. We are having large minyanim in basements every day, disrupting their peace and quiet and increasing traffic and congestion that they lived here to avoid. Make friends with them, send them a cake, make casual conversation before asking them for a favor. It’s their world, not ours.

  11. i line in toms river, you need to bring over some yummy hot potatoe kugel one erev shabbos, and ask them nicely if they dont mind lowering the music at times when your kids are trying to nap, DONT CALL THE POLICE!! dont forget how some of our kids act on purim, and dont forget how some of ours stroll in the streets on shabbos, and some of us stop their cars in middle with out warning to pick up hitchers, so its a 2 way street, if you know what i mean

  12. I also moved to a frum frum area. There are are still some other people living there. My biggest issue is how they walk around in the streets. Especially in this hot spell and b’frat the Nashim.
    Im afraid i’ll lose my whole olom Habah in seconds. If I already didn’t What do I do ? I cant install a sign as they have when entering Meah Shearim. Need aitzos quickly.

  13. When offensive radio playing occurs. Just retreat inside to your own 4 amot. No need to ask your neighbors to do anything? That’ll only escalate more problems.

  14. If you ignore it and don’t make an issue of it, in all probability the kids if they are having fun won’t notice it unless you make an issue of it. If you don’t mention it within their hearing the kids will never notice it.

  15. You got lucky as there’s obviously an unmistakable difference between you & your neighbor.
    I am not so lucky. How do you explain when your Eynikel says, “Zaidy, I don’t understand. The neighbor is wearing a yarmulke but he’s also wearing a blue shirt!”
    When they’re old enough you can explain the difference between Orthodox & Reform Jews. But to a 5 year old?
    Or I had a neighbor years ago that flew a Zionist flag in their backyard. My children were terrified asking if the neighbor wants to kill them? I explained it’s even worse! They want to take you away from Torah & Mitzvos!!! My Ruv said the best antidote is to expose them for who they are. So everytime we saw them we’d grab our Chumashim & shout “Parshas Zachor” at them.
    You should feel lucky you’re only dealing with “minor” issues compared to me.

  16. It isn’t easy to change anyone, let alone neighbors like that. I really feel for you. Only change would be you…by moving. We live with neighbors who have no respect for anything…you can be nice to them as much as you want, but they don’t ever change. Deep down, they probably hate us anyways.

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