Dear Editor. My headline should explain my point. Has anyone here not had like a, whatever, a girl behind them in the grocery or pizza store just yapping away on the cell phone talking like oh my gosh? I’m not sure where or how this ridiculous way of talking came into our community or who even invented this, singy-songy type of you know, the long whatever sentences made up of a bunch of tzoatally cool words which have absolutely nothing to do with what you’re talking about, and ends in a big ‘you know what I mean’ question type of voice at the end while waving your hands up and down right and left as if to be oh my gosh swatting a fly or trying to cool down the outdoors or whatever? K, so that’s my point. I’m babbling for 10 minutes and sounding like a total drunkard.
But anyone who talks to today’s teenage girls, knows so oh my gosh what I mean.
Just cut it out.
I just wanted to point out to teenagers, mostly girls, that this is extremely annoying and in the business world, or even just in friend to friend conversations, this sounds you know tzotally ridiculous, like oh my gosh ridiculous and so like whatever not cool.
So please, the next time you’re yapping on your cell phone in the pizza store, like online? waiting to pay? try not to be annoying to your surroundings? K? Like I hope you tzoatally get my point? Take the extra minute to think of what you want to say and save all the extra whatevers and OMGs the LOLs and whatever else you pick up from your texting lingo, which being so careful with the amount of words you use, you tzoatally have to use abbreviated words which some people have no clue what you’re saying anymore.
Oh, I’m so sorry I spilled your morning coffee while I was waving my hands. I was just trying to explain the whatever part of my sentence which I couldn’t understand but figured my hand waving gesture would explain it.
A regular speaking person.
And P.S. The tzoatally is so not a typo. I think it’s even in my cool new dictionary?
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I have never experienced this on a line at the store. When I’m on a line at the store or bank I’m too busy reading very important stuff on my blackberry. I’m so busy I don’t hear anyone in line behind me. Most times I don’t even hear the cashier or bank teller the first few times.
I find this commentary interesting as the grammar and phraseology used by the author is less than stellar.
There are numerous errors including:
1) missing quotation marks
2) using “K” instead of “OK” – as done in texting, not letter writing
3) beginning a sentence with the word “but”
4) missinfg commas
5) run-on sentences
6) using the word “like” inappropriately (substitute “such as”)
People in glass houses should avoid throwing stones.
Or, to paraphrase the author (corrected to the best of my ability):
I just wanted to point out to the author, that this letter is extremely annoying due to its errors, and in the business world, or even in letter-to-the-editor communications, it is ridiculous.
like OMG!
Why is this worth a letter? Get a life. Everybody is on their cell phones these days!! Go into any public place and you will find people yapping on their phones. What did we all do BEFORE cell phones?! I guess we didn’t know that words like “tzoatally” even existed!
why is the yeshivish lingo better “eh so you know lemeisa its not negiah eh eh eh… ” just as annoying!
i just love how everyone get’s along. brings tears to my eyes to see such achdus.
Chillzich!
#4 is absolutely right too, the yeshivishe lingo is just sad when you see someone talk like that in the real world and they feel like total idiots , i once felt so bad for a guy watching this play out. This is constructive critisicm and should be taken as such, and can be worked on for a yeshiva guy to improve his way of speach, and not learn on the job from embarassing moments and situations. As per the original articles comment on teenage girls sing song speech, again the same point it is irrelevant if its online in a pizza shop or on a potential date, the writer is 100 percent right, you sound like total fools, again take this as constructive critisicm, no guy on date will tolerate a sinsong conversation, i have told my own daughter in the past why does she speak with a sing song. As per origin, this way of speach originated in the west coast in Los angeles, by the not to inteligent white american female teenagers.
so now that you know what you sound like maybe that will give you an incentive to stop.
PLEASE USE THIS ONE>>> TYPOS FIXED!
While I concur with the writer I must stop and wonder why he takes his aim at the girls and their style of speech and completely glosses over the pseudo-English-Yiddish spoken by almost all of our Yeshiva boys. Let me tell you dah Matziv. I mean, it’s just not Stam! You hear what I’m saying. No? NU, a Groisah Yesha Koiach, Kol Tuv! Putting aside that fact that they are incapable to constructing a grammatically correct sentence, they are also incapable of speaking 3 consecutive English words without interjecting Hebrew/Yiddish. They have constructed their own lexicon of Yinglish (Jewish Ebonics) and mumble the rest of their words so that it is totally incomprehensible by any educated English speaker! The sentence constructs are laughable. I actually heard of someone calling up to his son saying “can someone trow (throw) his father down the stairs, a towel”. I wasn’t sure whether I should call the police or his kids! In contrast to the “whatever” girl talk influence the Yeshiva boys issues pales in comparison… At least the girls can be understood by the broader audience.
I was in a frum grocery and I saw a yungerman on his phone saying something was awesome. To my ears it sounded ridiculous.
this letter shouldn’t even be on here. People should be able to express themselves how they choose without smeone passing judgement. We have all been young and have done and said things that isnt considered proper. Chances are when they grow up so will their speech. Please let them be kids!!!!
# 8, I believe the correct phrasing is they are incapable of constructing a grammaticly correct sentence.
i believe there is another point the writer brought up that seems to have been overlooked based on the comments. there is a certain behavior we expect from girls/women when in public. we always expect them not to bring so much attention to themselvs, not to minimize the obligation of boys/men to behave in a refined manner in public. unfortunately there is a lot to be desired from all of us with regard to the use of phones in public. i think we should all read what the writer wrote and use it to better ourselves. if the men are more careful in public so will everyone else be.
this is obviously just my opinion.
U no? Da author is, like, wut’s his problem? U no wut I mean? Gr8! TTYL. Whatever.
I hate to say this, but I get these texts from people who expect me to take them seriously in business as well.
There is an unwritten code that the grammer laws are loosened when texting. There is also the acceptable fact that among friends you can speak or text however you like.
The problem is that these kids think it’s cool even outside of their circles. They don’t even realize that it sounds weird to the world at large.
I think it’s pointless to try to talk to them. U no wut i mean? Wutever!!!!!!!
very well said!
not so long ago people use to say it is not tznius for girls to talk so loud on a cell in public
Kol kvooda Bas Melech pnima.the countryboy’s comment explains it quite well. I’ve got no objection to their kind of “shmoozerie” as long as its done pnima.
i agree with this letter 1,000% although id never sit down and pen such a letter because i dont have patience for such stupidity. However, some of my siblings who think they are so tzoatally cool use that lingo and every single comment, sentence, compliment, or gesture ends and begins with the “word”– “K?!”. it is rediculous! They are convinced that they have the best dialect in the world and they dont believe anyone who tells them they said crazy. This world is crazy.
This just in, apparently, it’s currently the mid 90’s…
In response to comment #8 (and others who also mention the Yeshivish talk):
At least Yeshivish comes from a holy source-our Torah. Today’s teenage talk is copied from as unholy a souirce as you can get.
Speak up, for all your major intelligence you can’t even spell and don’t know grammar. The word isn’t speach but speech.You probably were also trying to say “not too intelligent” rather than “not to intelligen”. You look a lot worse when you try but can’t than when you don’t even try. LOL
The cellphone textaholic teenagers are introducing a standard of speech and rudeness that is unacceptable. It is addictive and while I recognize that the predominant thing that generations have in common with each other is that they are all complaining – what’s with the kid’s today?, it doesn’t mean that the unacceptable behavior that they demonstrate should not be pointed out as ‘annoying’ and ‘illiterate’ – it doesn’t mean that yeshenglish is great, it doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be tolerant – it calls to attention an unpleasant reality and it’s sad that girls can’t find ‘articulate english spoken in appropriate places’ a standard that should be adhered to under all circumstances.
Cant believe the lakewoodscoop would even print such a letter.. Makes your website so low and cheap..
Im so happy people have such important issues burning on their head!
What happened to our world..
Just live and let live and accept everyone as they are..
Get a life…
to #11 You need to learn how to spell the word grammatically. Use spell check!
To #19: I question whether “Yishivish” comes from the Torah as you claim or if it comes from Eastern European Yiddish/culture. True EU Yiddish was the home of a large segment of the Torah world before the war but please don’t confuse that with the Torah HaKedosha itself. A moot point none-the-less. The issue is not where the distortion of language originates from, the issue is the distortion itself. When one distorts language whether English, Hebrew, or Yiddish or any other form of communication, they lessen their message to people who they are communicating to. As an example… the attraction of Rav Matisyahu’s speech is significantly enhanced by his delivery and his articulate communication style in both Yiddish and English. His ability to communicate would be severely compromised if his command of language was not on the par that it is even though the content would be the same. When we speak in half baked sentences with poor command of the language, we are not making the impact that we could and should and may actually make a Chilull HaShem at the same time. Remember. People judge us on how we present ourselves to the outside.
If you cant fight ’em, join ’em!!!!
omg Come’on grownups, stop acting like babies. You embarrass me. So not cool.
wtvr
I just wanted to say LOL at this letter, and thank the writer for something so entertaining, though sharply true.
But, like, l’maisah, we can’t do much about it. So it’s, like, just a phase they’re going through, I think? They’ll probably outgrow it, so, LOL, don’t sweat over it, k?
And, lyke, I’m tzoatally srs!!
As a goy I can tell you we’ve been dealing with this “singy songy” nonsense since at least the 1980s. We call them “Valley Girls” so have fun!
OK let me tzel ya abt the tzotally awesome time we had . ’twas like wtvr ya tzotally missed it, sry! twas just gr8! ROTFL! LOL! GTG TTYL! MWA!
I am a teenaged girl and while I understand the letter writer perfectly, I think a bigger problem with todays “textaholics”, is that people need to be aware that when waiting for gas, or paying a cashier it is EXTREMELY rude to be texting or on your cell phones when talking to other people. I saw this too many times, unfortunately.
Oh Em Gee. I can’t like believe you like actually like took the time to like write this.
well said
thank you #8 i got my laugh for the day
this should be the biggest problem in lakewood amen!
1. This teenage talk is extremely annoying to me as well but that’s my personal taste so it’s my problem… I can be mechanech my children the way I see fit… but no one else.
2. Yeshivish talk is annoying to me too but same thing….
3. Chassidishe people (born and raised in the U.S) that speak english with a foreign accent are annoying to me too but same thing…. (just for the record… the numerical number 50 is pronounced “fifty” not “FIVDY”)
4. What do you expect when all cool girls talk like u know – cool??? What do you expect from chassidim who speak yiddish as their mother tongue???
Let’s move on…
HAHAHAHAHAHA this is the best letter I read on TLS! I must show this to my sis may be now she will understand what I keep telling her
“OMG”
and about the yeshivishe shtikle I agree 100% thats its insane that it takes on an average 6 1/2 extra min. per 2 min. conversation – because he has to stick in every yeshiveshe word in to the sentence.
I was in a store and the guy behind the counter said that one time a lady came in to complain and she managed to stick 7 yeshivishe words (in a way that was “correct” and sounded good) in one sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it is crazy
I was told that a person has only a certain amount of words they can say———why waste it on something that brings and has no explanation?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem is that someone who cannot explain his point in clear language without the use of the word ‘whatever’ probably does not understand his point too well.
i know exactly what you’re talking about, but part of your letter seems like you’re pointing fun at people. and “awesome” is not a bad word for anyone to say no matter how ridiculous it sounds.
a more ridiculous sentence for a teen girl to say in public would be “wat up girl! that dress is fine!”. a black woman would say that too but my example is of a jewish girl.
a lot of girls might be very defensive when they read your letter so please be careful in the future with any letters that you post.
letter writer-
I don’t mean to sound rude…but seriously?? Do you not have more important things on your plate than to analyze the way teenage girls talk? This letter is just an example of your boredom… try a sudoku maybe? They’re all the rage these days – all the kids are doing it 😉