1. I was there and I feel that it’s healthier not to talk and try to prove about Emunah.
   After the Shiur, a few Bochurum asked, if your proof that there is a Creator is from the fact that the world is so magnificent and orderly, than think of God who certainly is magnificent, who created Him?
   And who is the Creator of the Creator’s Creator. So the Bochurum told him, Ein Ldovor Sof.
   So the Athiests don’t understand and we don’t either understand.
   So the conclusion was, that in essence we just created an Entity which we say, that we can not understand, and therefore we don’t have to understand.
   The best way is still Emunah Pshutah.

2. Interesting, These boys actually caught on to Einstein’s argument. Who is the Creator of the Creator. That was his reason for never accepting the belief of a personal God. He said,Who created that magnificent, orderly, wonderful, devine Being?

3. is that r’ eliezer klien in the crowd?

4. This argument is not valid. HKB”H created the universe, true. Then, you ask, who created Him?

   This question is based on a premise that HKB”H had (chas vesholom) to be created. That’s because from our point of reference, things have to be created in order to exist. By mankind’s definition of existence, it can’t be here unless it is put here.

   But the Creator’s existence is not, lehavdil, like ours. Einstein questioned the origin of the Creator. And his question makes sense from the perspective of man: nothing can exist unless it is created. So who created the Creator?

   The answer is simple. The Creator’s existence cannot be fathomed by our minds, which are based in space and time. We cannot have a grasp of what infinity is: we are finite, and our minds can relate only to finite concepts. The Creator, lehavdil, is not limited to time and space, and thus does not need to have an origin, which is a time-related concept.

   Do you say Adon Olam daily? Read it carefully, especially the first six lines.

5. To: Chabadzker
   Rabbi Kessin was trying to proof that there is such a thing as God. He described the magnificent and orderly world including the DNA. He therefore reasoned that there must have been an intelligent creator. So, in order to proof that there is a God, Rabbi Kessin is actually the one that is using mankind’s definition of existence, which might be flawed; perhaps the world with all its splendor could have been here forever, our shallow minds just can’t fathom it.

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