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Note for Next Season: Canteens
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Absolutely right!! And that 150 can be used fir tuition for school!
Go away!
Your inability to teach your child to budget wisely doesn’t mean my child shouldn’t be able to buy a warm meal on the night that he can’t stand.
Teach your child to budget!
You’re still a child
Just saying… when all the boys friend are buying poppers you think he’s going to remember what his mother told him and budget???
Nope, it’s your job as a parent to teach your child financial responsibility. You can stick your head in the sand and blame the camp for having too many options, but just teach your kid how to spend responsibly. Just don’t spend.
You can also just not give them more for the summer and make that clear at the beginning.
Camp Ruach Chaim has a massive canteen operation. By girls half there is soft-serve ice cream, slush, (frozen) pizza, pizza snaps, pizza rolls, and French fries and fountain soda. No candy or chips. By boys half, there’s all that, plus chicken nuggets, fingers, schnitzel sandwiches, pulled beef sandwiches, and still no candy or chips. The prices are not outrageous, but the bill adds up.
At the same time, the “camp food” is actually very good. And there is always more than enough.
maybe talk you your kids instead of trying to blame the camp. The line for hot water for noodle soup after nearly every meal is over 100 kids long.
A bit confusing: The fact that no candy, very nice; good camp food, great and important. But why is the line for noodle soup so long? (BTW not to healthy – has preservatives and enchemicalized, enpoored flour noodles). Maybe they should serve soup – it’s probably more the warm food that the campers want. I recall such foods being served commonly in camp, and if you add in vegetables, they’re getting that too.
BTW, in ninth grade, I got back almost all the money I had deposited into the canteen in the beginning of the season, as the meals were so good, I almost never bought anything. (OK, granted I had also brough a box of snacks. As I got older, less snacks – and more seforim!)
It can also be a nice thing to serve some desert at end of meal (during week too). Halevai a healthy type of pudding etc.
Much hatzlacha and nachas.
This is all hock (talk/politics), there is tremendous nachas (pride). We have much to be thankful for that they’re not part of the gangster mess that is currently being cleaned up around town.
Thank you so much for letting everyone know that your son is a picky eater, overeater poor budgeter, or possibly all three. If you have an issue with your son’s camp providing substandard meals and having an overpriced canteen – TELL THEM. True, a printed piece in the Scoop feels good to see, but it’s not a serious attempt for change.
They should sell only packaged goods, that would take care of the kashrut issues that letter writers brought up earlier this summer.
Maybe use this as a hands-on lesson on budgeting. Next year, give him less money and explain that he should spend it wisely lest he be left with nothing like last year. Also, tell him he can keep whatever he doesn’t spend.
While the canteens did start including actual meals like sandwiches, they are a luxury, like pulled beef etc.. Your child absolutely does not need the canteen for sustenance. Your child decided to blow through the $150 because it was available to him. I sent $130 with my child and he had about $80+ left with just a few days left to camp. The canteen refunds whatever is not used, around $20 of which he used for the camp DVD.
If your child told you he needed it for sustenance, he either has very spoiled eating habits or he’s pulling one over on you.
I have three boys that went to camp this summer, none of them spent over $50 for the entire summer. It is very simple, we buy a d send with them all types of goodies, and all canteen money spent comes from their own pocket. It works perfectly fine and they know how to control themselves.
I work for a camp that has a very skimpy canteen for that reason. I think it’s nice but the expanded menu is not new. I went to camp 35 years ago and the camp menu of hot food was quite extensive. Taxi your child. Scary will you do when your daughter goes to seminary? Complain that the stores still too much? Don’t wait. Teaching your child how to budget and postpone gratification are great tools for life.
Please proofread your comment before posting. Too much of this is gibberish.
I’m sorry. It was a iq test to see if you could figure it out
Taxi =talk to
Scary =what
Still =sell
or a low IQ on speech to text!
I.wish my sons camp had decent canteen. The camp food was not edible and what he did eat gave everyone stomach aches, so instead of getting meals from canteen he went hungry and lost weight. Thats pretty pathetic
Just curios: Lost weight from how much?
Obviously, the following story has nothing to do with you, but the weight part is food (pun-intended) for thought!
Once, a teen caught around the scene of crime his friends perpetrated in another neighborhood and he admitted he was their driver, though he claimed he had no idea they were going to do a crime, was imprisoned until his case would be heard. The case was purposely scheduled for a year later, so he’d sit for some time regardless. Half a year later, his parents sued the prison/state for malnutrition of their son. The reason? He had weighed 400lb when entering, and now, after the half a year there, had lost a whopping 100lb! (Now we know why they “merited” such a son – with their attitude..)
I think the canteen manager and camp cook conspire to sabotage supper
whether i agree with this or not is irrelevant, but i think that by posting things on the scoop, your setting yourself up for disaster. people say what they want, how they want, and dont care that maybe they are hurting someone else and setting of a wave of unkindness. been there done that, and it horrified me, and reading comments also horrifies me. so please disregard the negative comments others have no self control over, and remember, your thoughts are valid even without positive reactions. your feelings and opinions are always welcome, but putting it on a platform is asking for disaster. i am sorry for all the comments that are unpleasnt to read
Shlomo Hamelech also had to deal with that. This is one of the peshatim that he gave a whole resume’ at the beginning of Mishlei. Since he was coming to discuss major hashkafa topics of how to deal the Yetzer Hara and life’s challenges, he knew that people always mercilessly challenge things that are said – especially high-powered matters and when coming to convince people how to act. Therefore, he gave his resume’ ‘the parables (lessons) of Solomon, son of David, King in Jerusalem, to let us know we can rely on him. (As heard in the introduction to a series of shiurim on Mishlei by Rabbi Yaakov Berman, rav in Lakewood.)