Dear Editors,
As a member of the Frum community, I’m writing to express my concerns about the upcoming election and why I’ve decided not to vote.
Vice President Kamala Harris’s stance on certain issues, particularly her anti-Torah values and lack of support for Israel, deeply trouble me. Which is why I can’t bring myself to vote for her.
However, I’m also uneasy about the excessive enthusiasm some in our community have for Donald Trump.
While Trump has pledged to fix the economy, inflation and what not, so heavily relying on any individual undermines our faith in Hashem. Yes, Trump’s economic policies and support for Israel are attractive, but I worry that our focus on him may lead us astray from Hashem’s guidance.
Some may view Trump as a Shliach, but the idolization surrounding him is concerning. Painting him as the world’s savior reeks of Kefirah. Our community should prioritize Hashem’s guidance over earthly leaders.
A Simple Yid from Jackson.
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Yes. Indeed you are a very simple small thinking small minded person!
Nebach!
Run quick get some help!!
Should we not take anti biotics or trust lawyers because it’s border line kefiyra because we are trusting the meds instead of hashem???
Spot on
You’re way over due for a wheel alignment
This letter is just a troll to get people excited & it really worked!
Please come up with something more sincere sounding next time you want to troll the tzibbur.
@ Sam, I contend YOU are exactly what you accuse the author of. Seriously, get a little maturity, and answer things like an adult.
I too have serious reservations about trump. And I too Bemoan the idolization of this crass man, who has evidenced that he would quicker do foolish reactionary things rather than utilize his alleged intelligence.
Yet in this race, i believe the alternative is far worse
I’ll second the motion on you being a simple yid and add a selfish Yid. Although Hashem is performing so many nisim for us, we still live in a tekufa of Hester panim. Voting for the candidate that will support Israel and share moral values with us is making hishtadlus. In this bitter Galus, it’s admirable for you to depend so much on Hashem but it’s incumbent on you as well to make hishtadlus. At least for the rest of us who are not as holy than thou
I’m sorry. You are not being smart. Vote for Trump!!!
So you’re not going to vote for a candidate because other people are more enthusiastic about him than you think is appropriate? And you decided that because they’re enthusiastic about him, because maybe they find him funny or they like his policies or their stocks were very high the last time he was president, it means that they don’t trust in Hashem, and you’re judging what’s in their hearts, because YOU, the simple yid from Jackson, you know!
I say this with kindness, but this is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard in my entire life.
There is a point where “enthusiasm” becomes so extreme that it clouds all impartial thinking and borders on idolatry.
Like the Liberal Jews, who call themselves Frum Jews, but are actually following a religion that is opposite of Torah. AKA the Democrat party.
The only frum Jew in Lakewood not to vote for him after the rabbis said to vote for him
There are many other frum people not voting for Trump
Jews voting for Democrat party candidates need check why they are allowed to vote for such people. These are people that support everything that is the antithesis to Torah.
lol, like when everyone was promoting Chittarelli because Murphy is pro anti-torah values, yet chitterally said explicitly that he too promotes the behavior of “civil marriage”.
Thou arent hypocrites, though the act of hypocrisy is in thee:)
Such misguided views – anti torah
Takkeh simple
Are you for real ????
I’m shocked that someone will even publish suck nonsense.
You need to go back to basics maybe
Kindergarten
This is a grossly underdeveloped thought. Agreed that there are chisronos about both candidates. It has been longer than my lifetime, and maybe never has happened, where one candidate was purely the right choice.
The only choice that society has presented to them when these elections come around is to choose who have you evaluated to be the most likely to do the least harm in short and long term.
Not voting is a terrible choice, as you’re lessing the possibility that you can prevent the candidate who you view more likely to cause more damage from being elected.
Unintelligent.
I think that is a silly stance. Obviously, idolizing Donald Trump is wrong and the people doing so should be called out on that. This does not mean that you shouldn’t vote for him.
you are a good person.
while some here chose to use childish personal attacks on the author, you stated your point without devolving into the muck. Ashrecha.
Feel same way We have to work on strengthening our Emuna But voting is our little hishtadlus that we have to do .
Look at the last 4 years. What has the Democrats done for anybody ? We can live in depression or we can live in prosperity It’s your choice. Harris is a anti Semitic individual voting with her squad
Do you realize, that by your “frumme” worry of idolizing Trump, is 1 less vote for Trump and helps Kamala get the lead. you yourself agree that kamala is not good for the yidden and the torah, so why would you do something that could help her win?
Additionally, do you realy think youre smarter than the Motzes Gedolim who say you must vote? Than Rav Yaakov Bender who said its a chiyuv to vote. Because EVERY VOTE FOR TRUMP PUTS HIM 1 AHEAD OF HARRIS! EVEN IN A BLUE STATE, YOU HAVE A CHIYUV HISHTADLUS! Rav Shmuel said to vote for Trump. Rav Shaul Alter said vote for Trump. The Satmar rebbes said vote for trump. Rav dovid lau said vote for trump. the skver rebbe said vote for trump. EVERY RAV/ROSH YESHIVA/POSEK/REBBE SAID TO VOTE. HAVE YOU NOT SEEN ALL THE LETTERS GOING AROUND ABOUT THE CHIYUV TO VOTE?
Please let go of these Frumme ideologies that prevent you from doing the right thing.
From what I hear from you, I’m surprised you even know about elections! Now go learn in the shul.
Very silly letter. So don’t go to a doctor because really Hashem is the healer
Good thing no one cares what you think
What the hell does that mean hashems sending trump to fix these issues
Hashem should be capitalized
love that
So the fact that our Gedolim worldwide for the last 50 yeats say it’s an obligation to vote means nothing to you?
By not voting you think your reasoning (as silly as it is) will get better? Let’s play it out your way. I won’t listen to my Gedolim and vote, so if Harris wins its gonna be bad for the Yidden, if Trump wins it will be good for the Yidden but actually it will be bad for the yidden cause they will turn to him over Hashem. Seriously????? You are not afraid to be motzie laz on all of us that we are not smart enough to realize it’s all from Hashem and we may actually think it’s Trump and not Hashem?
If you don’t vote will that mean there just won’t be a winner in the election? What exactly do you think will happen?
So, how about we do the right thing. How about we listen to our Gedolim and vote. How about we vote for who we feel is best for the Yidden. Then, how about we leave the voting booth and say to Hashem, I did my hishtadlus, I was mekayem a mitzva, I followed your Gedolim, so Hashem please do your Rotzon and whatever the outcome is I know it will be the perfect outcome that you dear Eibishter wanted.
Well said. Chiyuv of Lo Sasur to listen to the Gedolim that it is a chiyuv to vote.
To the letter writer: whether you are right or wrong about voting for the president is really irrelevant in New Jersey as the electoral vote will be going to the Democrats anyway.
What is important is to vote locally, that will have a direct effect on you and the town as a whole.
Every vote counts and is important!
Remember, every politician looks who did and did not vote. Which neighborhoods, blocks and towns voted. They are the ones who get what they need.
Make sure to vote!
Well Rav Shmuel Kamenetzky is voting for him among several other worthy Gedolim so that’s that’s good enough for me and it should be good enough for you.
President Donald Trump is an Ohev Yisroel that’s done more for the Yidden than any other politician in American history and Hakoras Hatov is not optional. It’s mandatory.
Hashem has given no other human on earth the strength, resilience & fortitude as President Trump. May HASHEM send President Trump back to the white with 350+ electoral points including Virginia, New Mexico and Minnesota!!!
Gossage out!
Needs 370 votes to win.
Hello, it is a actually 270 electoral votes to win. How come there are so many mean replies? Voting has nothing to do with religion. It is considered our civic duty to vote. We live in America so we are free to vote or not. If you choose not to vote, then you have no right to complain about any elected official.
Misleading headline
Your position makes no sense. You won’t vote for Trump because some other people who are voting for him might not have the right hashkafas? I have an idea for you since you are so into having faith in Hashem. Ask a rav if you have an obligation to exercise hishtadlus and vote and who it should be for. Then do what he says. Follow da’as Torah. Not your own compromised brain.
פלגי מים לב מלך ביד ה’ על כל אשר יחפץ יטנו
💯💯💯💯
Lol this post is laughable and immature. What was the purpose? You don’t want to vote, k don’t. But I just saw a video the other day of someone claiming they only ever voted in the 2020 election and now 2024 (and they’re in their 50s) and their voting history showed that they had voted in multiple other elections, which they denied ever doing. So you might want to actually vote so no one else votes using your name to get their outcome. Also I have a family member who said her polling site did not check for ID, they just asked for name, address and to sign their name making sure the signatures match (which anyone can do with practice), so as I said you might want to vote so no one else does it for you.
Ask your Rav if that is the proper histadlus.
“A simple Jew from Jackson”
VERY SIMPLE!
It’s not idolization, that’s in your head. Besides being a better candidate it’s an issue of him being abusd, harrassed,l ied about for 8 years – he, his family and millions of us. In other words, he’s been robbed of his election, dignity and humanity. What we hope for is to see Hashem Oseh Mishpot La’ashukim.
What a shallow letter, do you ever make hishtadlus or is that also Kfirah? Who cares about if some are too excited, does that mean you should just sit at home and not make the most basic hishtadlus in your lifetime??
Think, it’s free.
You are oiver on the es that is coming to teach us to listen to the rabbanim
There is no such Drasha.
Lo Sasur
Simple Yid, do you believe in hakoras hatov ? Doesn’t seem like. In fact, I think this is a phony letter written by a Trump hater posing as a simple, frum yid.
I’m sorry, this is a ridiculous letter. So don’t go to a doctor because Hashem should heal us without medication because… You know… Because… And certainly don’t call any medical organizations for the best doctor you need because you know… Hashem should heal you with a subpar doctor. I really hope you change your mind and see how important it is to vote for someone that yes, Hashem sent, to help our communities.
I definitely hear your point, however, if our Torah leaders advise us to vote for one candidate over the other, then I believe it alleviates your concern.
All the best!
You’re missing the point. Nobody thinks he’s a fix-it-all solution. And certainly Noone is placing all their trust in Donald Trump.Please give us more credit than that. That being said, we have an obligation to do our hishtadlus and vote for the person who most aligns with our values. In the end we know that Hashem decides elections, but if you don’t vote you are in essence casting a vote for Kamala. Hashem y’rachaim on us if she gets into office. Please don’t be short sighted!!!
ברוך שכיוונתי!
Well I will be voting for him because I believe his views aligns with Torah values more then Kamala, and no, I don’t think he is the Messiah. Hope that doesn’t make me a כופר😊
A simple Yid from Jackson.
Another one of those letters made just to get the comment section crazy
why in the world do you print asinine letters????
Aren’t you the same obsessive TDS blogs poster who when convenient, poses as a frum yid ?
i think “simple jew from Jackson” should keep his simplicity to himself.
i think he should also buy a old car so he doesn’t have so much bituchin in his reliable car, and instead relies on hashem
Dear simple yid,
I personally have many issues with Trump. That said, I absolutely disagree with your stance on not voting for him.
Yes, it’s true, we must not idolize him and must remember that Lev Melachim Beyad Hashem.
But the alternative is mamish like voting for Hitler (although she seems to think Trump fits that bill). Or maybe Izevel, or Zeresh or whomever. But she is Sonei Yisrael to a dangerous level and we as a nation need to band as many votes together to get rid of her before this entire country falls into the bathroom pit of society to the lowest level.
Would you vote for an immoral Paraoh because the better option has Gaava and other issues and many ppl think he’s amazing?
We must do whatever it takes as a state to keep the dangerous one out.
I happen to have come to terms with many of my Trump issues because he is far better for Klal Yisrael and America.
Have more to add on this but no time.
I just hope that you reconsider and help be an added vote for NJ to get rid of the machshefa that would like to win. (P.s. she is controlled by evil people as well.)
We need every voice in town and state to make that difference.
With Hashem’s help we can do this.
What you are saying is 100 % true, but still hold your nose and vote for Trump. You don’t want that woman as President. She will come after Israel and Yiddishkeit with both barrels.
Decisions are not always easy to make, but not voting is also voting against the underdog, and for the likely winner.
So, in New Jersey, not voting is almost the same as voting for Kamala.
I personally think you have an obligation to vote.
you have to do your histadlus stop with the Lakewood trash and go vote
You’re an agitating liar. You’re not fooling anybody.
No one care what you think.
Go vote for the evil socialist of America.
So don’t idealize him. Just vote for him for president and not a savior. Problem solved.
You yourself stated about the danger of a Harris victory. It is incumbent on EVERY person (Jewish or otherwise) to make sure that she could never become president and cause IRREPERABLE HARM to the country as a whole and to us as individuals.
By you “not voting” you are in effect supporting her efforts to get elected.
SHE MUST BE DEFEATED for the country in general and the FRUM community in particular to survive in America.
If you are afraid of the “cult of Trump” then don’t vote FOR HIM, vote AGAINST HER !!
We are obligated to do this as a way of Hishtadlus and not doing so is very very wrong.
You sound like the person who says he won’t work because it hurts his bitochon.
I’m wondering if when what’s at stake is very close to home (your parnasa or similar), you’re also such a big מאמין and בעל השקפה or then you do what you gotta do. It’s very easy to become a בעל השקפה when it doesn’t cost much. Our big rabbis have taught us that when it comes to others one should be an אפיקורס. For oneself everything is באשערט and משמיים – not for others.
Just putting it out there. Just saying. You know. Some food for thought
Whoever u are. U are clearly not well u need a dr. That’s all I got to say
You need a doctor. Trump could careless about frum community. If he could you would be back in concentration camps. The blacks and Latinos would be slaves. Wake up don’t be a follower. Thought Torah. Told u that. This is a white mans world your just in it
But the alternative in not any better
What a demented comment. Seek help for your td.
What a dumb letter I am surprised it was even posted
This author is a Yeshivische Neturei Kartanick
No more hishtadlus needed people
Chasid Shoteh.
I started to read the comments and something bothered me very much. If you disagree with the post, you can explain it nicely, but why do we have to put him down and belittle him!!!
A couple of weeks ago at an event at Trump Doral speaking to a very large frum oilam Pres. Trump made the comment that he made again that same night in DC at another event, that ‘if I don’t win in November Israel won’t exist in 2 years’…. a pathetic statement and many were quick to correct him or clearly disagree with what he said. They didn’t condemn him because he was well meaning in whst he said, but us yidden know that the RSO doesn’t need Trump to save Israel. In fact Dr Miriam Adelson told him as much. So to this letter writer I say I’m not sure what your issue is. Most yidden don’t see Trump as our savior but rather someone who generally likes Israel and likes the jewish people and so of course we should vote for him..
MAGA 2024!!!!! Just had to say it!
maybe you are right it is kefirah but you have a hishtadlus to make sure the one thats better for jews wins
While I think the letter writer is likely stunted, let me explain where I imagine this thought process comes from.
Many years ago, pizza was Avoda Zara. Sushi. Crazy bones. The pursuit of the dollar. (Feel free to reply with all the things I missed)
The idea is that whenever something was particularly popular there inevitably came along someone well respected who gave a schmooze that this or that was “our Avoda Zara”.
The equation in this person’s head became: popular=Avoda Zara.
Therefore: Trump=Avoda Zara.
What this fails to take into account (among other things that many have already pointed out) is that all of those examples were pursuits for a benefit of self (I’m hungry, I’ll eat pizza) whereas voting is both a civic duty and (by voting with a bloc) a pursuit to the benefit of community.
The Schmoozen that were given in those times on those topics were generally about giving up a personal pursuit to better yourself. (As it is many of those schmoozen were not really about the pizza or sushi, but rather to tamp down the financial pressure on the students in whichever yeshiva)
If I’m correct, your argument not to vote is not based upon your understanding that Donald Trump is a superior candidate for the Presidency. It’s rather because you don’t want to be carried away in the Avodah Zora of Trumpism.
While I see that Avodah Zorah as a valid concern, I in no way see that as a reason not to vote for the man.
Did u not get married bec you’re afraid you may get carried away in your spouses looks and that Avoda Zora? Do u not eat because you’re concerned that you’ll get caught up in the avoda zora of food?
Besides, the Gedolim have said that you have a Chiyuv to vote.
That’s really the first and last of this discussion imho.
Lo Am HaAritz Chassid.
Go vote.
Oh, let me add one more. Do u not work because you’re afraid of getting caught up in the real issue of money becoming an Avoda Zora?
You can’t fix your Yezter Hora by simply not doing Mitzvos. Good luck.
If your Rabbi says to vote what is the question. Where do I get such silliness from.
No frum person actually idolizes Trump (with the exception of me😂). It simply hype. Yes, we are very enthusiastic about having him as a president because he has the “chutzpah” (in a good way) to get his way, which for what he stands for is amazing for the Jewish people. But yes we still do our part and pray for him to win, because it’s up to G-d if America can be saved or get destroyed by Kamala. G-d bless America. G-d bless Israel. And G-d bless Trump!!!
Ever since Joe Biden became president our country is so corrupted we need someone to put our country in a safe environment and destroy all these drugs that’s killing people from left to right and people to work
This is my first time responding to a letter. The reason I am is so that if it can help even one person understand how small minded and foolish the letter writer is it will be worth it. It reminds me of the story of the person who was drowning in middle of the ocean. He was screaming that he needs Hashem to save him. Along came a tug boat which threw out a rope. He refused to grab it because it wasn’t Hashem it was a boat. Soon after a helicopter came swarming over him and threw out a rope but he wouldn’t hang on because only Hashem can save him. Shortly thereafter a sail boat came by and threw him a life jacket but he refused once again. Obviously he drowned. Hashem in His infinite kindness is sending you (us) an opportunity to save you from drowning grab on to it!
First off, everyone relax yourselves. What’s with the nasty comments to this beautiful yid who’s just trying to protect their emunah?!
Yes the gedolim said to vote, although if an individual feels that doing so will comprise their emunah, that seems to be a very valid cause for them to potentially not vote.
Probably needs hadracha from a rebbe/rav, but to blatantly bash this opinion is extremely harsh and shallow!
(Btw maybe all the ppl who were so “offended” and felt the need to lash out, may be caused by exactly what this person is talking about)
Being passionate about the actual policies and issues doesn’t necessarily mean passionate about the person.
Please don’t confuse passion with “being offended”
There is no connection between the two.
What a putz. Seriously.
I’m Not saying ur ur point is invalid, it may be very true,
But u missed the most important facts! A vote for trump meand 1 left vote for Kamala! To not vote at all is just dumb
And the world keeps spinning
Moshiach Ben Dovid = 424 = Donald Trump
you need medication
Basically this is “I’m so frum I’m not voting” and also “I’m from Jackson and I’m so much frummer than you Lakewooders”.
Never read such a dumb letter
You keep your dumb views to yourself. If you have an opinion (which in this case is dumb) you don’t have to share with the whole world unless your attention hungery then to that I say nebach
ASK YOU,R ROV!!
ASK YOU’R ROV!!
Everyone should exercise their right to vote and I therefore respect your decision.
Although, I wish there would be a bit more substance to the decision making process here.
Quite shocking!
בכל דור ודור..
One is bound to find one of you…
רפואה שלמה בקרוב
the discussion if to vote trump or not is irrelevant in nj because it’s a blue state
C’mon man!
Anyone consider this letter was written by Lakewood scoop just for some noise..?!?!?!?
Youre so dumb Jackson Yid,
TRUMP MAGA BABY!
Not sure what you’re talking about. Most people I know are voting for Trump despite him being a very flawed individual. However he has proven himself as a friend of the Jews in many ways. In addition the Democratic party has been on a path of total Toeiva. I think you’re making a mistake in not voting for the best candidate for President, which in this election is Donald J. Trump.
Vote for trump. Do it for the klal, don’t be selfish.
Bruh that’s all I can say trump 2024
Instead of putting on tefilin and davening, I decided to not be a baal gaiva and pretend that the K”BH needs my trivial and insignificant participation in this world, and trust that he’ll fix it without me :/
Even if you are concerned about this, why is that a reason not to vote for him???
One has nothing to do with the other.
Sounds like you are a Harris supporter.
You cant let kamala win its the worse thing for klal Yisroel and especially Israel. There may be a point but you have to pick your poison.
Hatzlochah!
Agree, it would be great to have less flawed candidates. If 100,000 people could decide the election, for example, each vote is important. Not voting for Trump can be a vote for Harris.
Can I remind Simple Yid that if you stand in the street and get hit by a car, you can’t say Hashem caused your injury.
We need to stand up against the extremely liberal policies- do you know that Minnesota has arranged to allow a non-parent to take a child for gender change surgery against the parents’ wishes?? This is the current mood in society. This is shocking but true and that’s Walz’ state.
Trump has shown interest and concern for the Jewish community and is the only one to make a deal between Israel and Arab countries. Please rethink your stance.
What a selfish person not to vote.
Don’t vote for yourself self. Vote so you’re neighbors can have a better life.
My troll patrol alarm 🚨 is ringing really loud it’s a con troll so control (pun intended)yourself from getting worked up and take a deep breath
A gutten Erev Shabbos to all
Did someone said he isn’t voting for Trump. Oy vey I assume he didn’t take his pills!!! Because his vote will be wasted !!!
I’m don’t understand why, in a country the size of the USA, we can’t find two people who run against each other who are both qualified for the job and are refined individuals. I’m also surprised by so many nasty comments. It’s not so much about FP Trump or VP Harris, rather the hatred we have towards each other.
No vote is a vote for a Rasha. If you like your freedom then you will vote Trump and republican for all. There is no reason why you wrote this letter other than to get people upset and to show off your ignorance. If you like Torah, and your religion , then you will vote Republicans all the way. I think you forgot that Haman = Harris. Evil
he isn’t a saviour. he is a SHALIACH. there’s no kevurah here. get re calibrated
Basically this is a “I’m so frum I am not voting” and also “I live in Jackson and am so much frummer than you Lakewooders”.
Sounds like you need to work on your Bitachon.
For now, you should avoid doctors, lawyers, getting a paycheck, etc.
So vote for him for your requirement of hishtadlus and don’t idolize him.
Retard u sound like a brainwashed Lakewood person u should not be allowed to vote u crazy mentally ill fool
Watch your language
The man who wrote this letter is a sick man
VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP
KAMALA HARRIS AND HER ASSOCIATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OPENLY VIOLATE THE SHEVA MITZVOS BNEI NOACH, THE ESSENTIAL LAWS GIVEN TO HUMANITY BY HASHEM. THE RAMBAM IN MISHNEH TORAH ,HILCHOS MELACHIM U’MILCHAMOS CHAPTER 9 HALACHA 14 CLEARLY STATES ANYONE WHO TRANSGRESSES THESE SEVEN COMMANDMENTS IS LIABLE TO THE DEATH PENALTY, VOTING FOR OR ENDORSING SUCH INDIVIDUALS ALIGNS ONE WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSE RATZON HASHEM PLACING THEM IN THE SAME CATEGORY OF TRASGRESSION
PLEASE GO TO RABBI MENDEL KESSIN LATEST SHIUR ON THIS TOPIC AT TORAHTHINKGIN.ORG
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This Election contest was far from a level playing field with the biased Media and Although most election workers in New York and California are Democrat Party or Unionists and maybe biased, if we vote in the masses in time changes will happen.
HASHEM saved Trump from the assassin, and that’s enough of an indication of who deserves our vote.