Letter: Where Are We When Our Community Is Crying Out?

How is it that help only arrives when it’s already too late?

How is it that a family must face foreclosure—actually see the sheriff on their doorstep—before we offer assistance?

Why does someone have to watch their car get repossessed before a hand is extended?

Why must a child be sent home from school because of unpaid tuition before anyone steps in?

Why is it that only when a person is drowning in debt—truly gasping for financial breath—do we start to notice their pain?

How can a Yeshiva be forced to shut its doors due to mounting unpaid bills before our community rallies?

And perhaps most painfully: How is it that when fundraisers come from outside our community, they can raise tens of millions of dollars—yet our own local tzedakah organizations, schools, and vital services struggle month to month?

What are we doing?

How can it be that local stores we rely on every day are charging 30% more than their counterparts outside the community?

How can businesses underpay employees simply because they can—because the demand for jobs outweighs the supply?

How is it acceptable for an employer to withhold promised raises, leaving families stuck and under strain?

And where are we when our rabbonim—those who selflessly devote themselves to helping the needy—can’t even raise the funds they need to carry out their work?

Baruch Hashem, many members of our community have been blessed with incredible parnassah. So why is it that the core institutions of our community—yeshivas, Bais Yaakovs, local tzedakah organizations—are last on the list when it comes to giving?

We must face this uncomfortable truth: We often give when there’s attention, when there’s honor, when there’s PR. We donate when our names will appear on the banners, the walls, or the front pages.

But the struggling yeshiva? The overworked tzedakah organization quietly paying grocery bills, tuition, rent? The family too ashamed to speak up?

They don’t give plaques.

They don’t host galas.

They just cry. Quietly. Privately. Painfully.

G’virim, it’s time to wake up.

This is your community. These are your neighbors. These are the children who will grow into the next generation of leaders, teachers, builders of Klal Yisroel.

Let’s not wait until someone is falling off the cliff to try and catch them. Let’s build safety nets before they fall. Let’s return to what tzedakah really means—seeing the need before the pain turns into tragedy.

You may not get recognition. You may not get headlines. But you’ll be giving where it matters most—in the places that keep our community alive and thriving.

Let’s restore our priorities. Let’s make sure no one gets left behind.

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Emanuel Levy
3 months ago

I agree. The funds that are used for the banners and plaques and galas are funds that can be used to help more people.

shmendrick
Reply to  Emanuel Levy
3 months ago

The ones spending money on the banners etc, are the mosdos not the Gvir.

ki-Eelu
Reply to  shmendrick
3 months ago

WHat a negative unrealistic taint on our Kehilla!
Where are you?
What are you a magid awakening us to teshuva?
Who entitled you to step up and for zero toeles badmouth all of us????????????

Realistic
3 months ago

The bitter truth is that when you really need help, there’s often nobody- even organizations- that will help.

You could go to Rabbanim, but their influence is often limited.

And then you’re on your own.

It’s the unfortunate reality

ashira
3 months ago

Speaking as someone who is unfortunately in this boat… my husband has been actively looking for a job for months after being laid off Pesach time. The stress is unbelievable with no knowledge of how on earth I’m getting my kids through school this year. Sometimes just putting gas in the car is unmanageable. I work which covers our food. Rent is covered by generous family. Yes, our utilities have been shut off till we were able to raise the necessary funds. Imagine if my school would call me up and tell me that my tuition is covered……

#NoSensitivity
Reply to  ashira
3 months ago

Who is the one that gave the thumbs down to this comment? Are you insane? This person is in pain and you give a thumbs down. This is for you: 👎

avraham
Reply to  #NoSensitivity
3 months ago

הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות
It is very possible that someone was trying to hit the other button and by mistake he hit the wrong button and he does not even realize that he made a mistake.
(he or she).
Gut Voch

avraham
Reply to  ashira
3 months ago

Food for Thought:
You can google “Rabbi Zev Smith Mama Rochel”.
He shares with us a beautiful 3 minute video. This video is for men and women. He has great advice how we can daven and ask Hashem for Parnassa, good health and etc. and the Rav says that Hashem will answer your prayer.

Yoel
Reply to  ashira
3 months ago

how can I send you money?

ashira
Reply to  Yoel
3 months ago

I truly appreciate this.
I can’t post the link here because I don’t think TLS allows but there was a Chesed fund link set up for us a few months ago. It is titled Help A Struggling Family. Tizku lemitzvos.

ashira
Reply to  Yoel
3 months ago

I really so appreciate this. Not sure if TLS will publish but there was a Chesed fund set up for us that was verified by my husbands rebbi.. it’s called Help A Struggling Family. Tizku lemitzvos!

Author
Reply to  ashira
3 months ago

if you post a link, I’d also like to donate. There are a couple of chesed funds with similar names

ashira
Reply to  Author
3 months ago

I so appreciate anyone who wants to help. Tizku lemitzvos!

im not sure why I can’t paste the link here but if you copy the following into your browser it should take you there.

https://thechesedfund.com/tzeddaka101/help-a-struggling-family

again, tizku lemitzvos! May you be zoche to always be on the giving end.

Chuni
3 months ago

Gvirim have been shelling out hundreds of millions of dollars and are being swamped w causes and mosdos
There is no place or time where money has been given out like today’s day and age in Lakewood.
People and Mosdos have to take responsibility for overspending on houses, clothes, food, vacations etc mosdos have to take responsibility on building massive overpriced edifices that put them in the hole and burn out their donors….

Someone who can't make ends meet
3 months ago

You are going to have people responding that the g’virim already give & it’s their hard earned money and they can do whatever they want with it.

It seems like a lot of them forgot that they are only a vessel in which Hashem is sending His money down to earth.

No כחי בעצם ידי.

No “But I worked for it”.

It’s supposed to be shared!

Especially with yeshivos.

It’s so much more glamorous to support brand name organizations that woo you & clamour after you. (& I’m not saying those organizations are not vital).

But if we would fully support Torah we wouldn’t need to support any of those other organizations. There wouldn’t be a need for them.

Crazy
Reply to  Someone who can't make ends meet
3 months ago

The question was how can it be that other organizations from abroad make millions when we are struggling

shmendrik
Reply to  Crazy
3 months ago

Because they go knock on doors. If you sit at home, no one knows you’re struggling.

rivka
Reply to  Someone who can't make ends meet
3 months ago

Its painful for those struggling as individuals. The gvirim that are giving are tzadikim. Many give more than a chomesh! Its not fair to bash them. Additionally, schools often make their own issues by stating that they only cater to a particular crowd. People dont feel a reason to support a school catering to the elite. May everyone get what they need bekarov.

Ben Torah
Reply to  Someone who can't make ends meet
3 months ago

As if to say the gvirim dont know hilchos masser. There are priorities. There isn’t a chiuv to give every single school sorry. Not the halacha remotely. Its painful that people feel it’s ok to bash people that give. Hatzlocha

Please help
3 months ago

I am personally involved in a few organizations . And I know for a fact that they are always struggling to raise friends in our community for The unbelievable things that they do. For example Bikur Cholim of Lakewood, who does so much for our community and beyond, struggles terribly to raise money in our community ….
there are a lot of other organizations who are in the same boat.

TorahTruth
3 months ago

Wow, such entitlement. How about a little (not a lot, just a little) Hakoras HaTov for the tremendous Tzedaka and Chesed our community does. You are Kofeh Tov, Eluk is a great time for Tshuvah.

Nikki
3 months ago

As far as the schools- many have alienated parents who have a bit extra to give, and possibly gvirim because they lack transparency. Can’t have it both ways u fortunately.

Rachmonim Beni Rachmonim
3 months ago

I heard that Bikur Cholim of Lakewood is struggling terribly financially!
why should such an organization have trouble raising money? They do so much for our community and matter of fact, not just our community but all over! Helping Yidden sometimes the most trying of times!

Business is business
3 months ago

“How can businesses underplay employees simply because they can, because the supply always advance?”
I’m sorry, but that’s how supply and demand works. If everyone has the same job skills and is competing for the same jobs then the employers are at an advantage. You can always enter a niche field, or commute / move to a place where there is less competition for your type of job.

Bruchy12
3 months ago

In regards to jobs and supply and demand. Two points. One if u work outside lakewood often the same job is worth more. A Rebbe in Lakewood and a Rebbe in 5 towns get paid differently. So do managers of groceries or bus drivers etc. This town is built on getting around on the cheapest way around on the owner and receiver end. If owners need to have cheap prices they pay cheap. Secondly, there are many stores in town that pay their heimeshe staff way above market value. People don’t want to get a skill set that will earn them a certain amount. Its easier to make people look bad than put in work. The real thing to do is do invest in a skill set. Lastly,there are people that cant invest in a skill set and need our help. Please done paint everything with the same brush. Its not emes. Period

ABC
Reply to  Bruchy12
3 months ago

Also, tuition in 5 towns is multiple times higher than Lakewood.

Reply to  ABC
3 months ago

Correct. So get the 5 towns salary and live in lakewood standards! Thanks for bringing my point out

Sam
3 months ago

First step we must take in this town in regards to tzedaka is to focus on our neighbors, before the 10,000 Israeli mushalachim that come around,

cool masmid
Reply to  Sam
3 months ago

עניי א”י may have a different halacha but to your point absolutely. I once took a meshulach to Chicago (it was over 20 years ago) and askonim told us right away that within Chicago a decision was made by the askonim and the rabbanim that they don’t give outside of Chicago in big amounts except for meshulachim from E”Y as they have to take care of their own city; their yeshivas and their institutions because as one askan said they can’t go collecting in NY for their mosdos because they’ll get that unwanted comment “theres no money in Chicago that you got to come to NY!!”. It makes perfect sense and its something that perhaps Lakewood should take note.
The letter writer is 100% correct. There are people in this town that are struggling beyond comprehension and maybe just maybe more needs to be done to help them.

Chicagoan
Reply to  cool masmid
3 months ago

Having grown up in Chicago, I think it should be mentioned that Chicago yidden are extremely generous and chesed minded. Every year on purim the streets of Chicago are flooded with bochurim from yeshivos across the country. They fly in to collect tzedaka and they receive.

I don’t know about the policy you stated and maybe purim is an exception. But there is something that all communities can learn from Chicago which is that the community looks out for each other. There is a real sense of achrayus for the klal. It’s really special.

Shmendrik
Reply to  Sam
3 months ago

Excuse me, there is an inyan to give aneya eretz yisroel. Many consider them just as important as locals!

Anon
3 months ago

We are way to big to be a kehila.
You don’t have to shop at those stores.
If you are underpaid leave.
(A former employee accused me of not giving the raise he was promised. I told him he did meet the requirements. They left when someone else offered a higher salary,and the new boss just fired them).
It’s important for employees and employers to understand the true value the employee brings.
An employee with a particular set of skills can be worth more in one industry than a different industry…

When did the person getting a visit from the sheriff reach out to anyone?

Malka brocha
3 months ago

I’ve Been asking (noone) this question for a long time! Why is adopt a kollel doing so well, when the people davening next to you can’t manage financially!! Why isn’t there an adopt a kollel for the locals??
And the millions collected for EY when the gedolim come??? Unbelievable! The money is around, but channeled away from the locals!

Raizy
Reply to  Malka brocha
3 months ago

Adapt a kollel is a awesome org. People struggle in israel way more than here and they havea din as ineyaei ircha accordingto msny. Its a Yissacher and Zevulan relationship. Yes the people local should give locally as well.btw they make a lot of their budget from reg people as opposed to gevirim. Its time we go to our regular people for locals in need.

New Yorker in Lakewood
Reply to  Malka brocha
3 months ago

Why is this comment being downvoted, because she said that we spent all our money on the Eretz Yisroel campaign when the Gedolei Eretz Yisroel came?

I feel if someone can explain to me and the previous commenter it would be helpful to me (nicely, if you can, please) why the gedolim came here knowing that American mosdos are struggling and how it confuses and annoys me knowing that Hilchos Tzedakah is usually taught to us as being that you have to choose more local causes before equally good long distance causes and yet we gave it away to our direly struggling EY mosdos instead of to balance our local mosdos.

Last edited 3 months ago by New Yorker in Lakewood
Reply to  New Yorker in Lakewood
3 months ago

The question is would the people that gave that money give it to to your cause if not for ey? Probably not. Those numbers are coming in due to people feeling a connection to that cause. So dont blame ey.

avraham
Reply to  New Yorker in Lakewood
3 months ago

Show me proof that the Gedolei Eretz Yisroel knew that our Mosdos here in USA are struggling. Also, if they once knew, maybe they forgot. One example, Reb Chaim Kanievsky
זכר צדיק וקדוש לברכה
he davened all the time that he should forget everything except for the actual Divrei Torah. He did not even remember what he ate 10 minutes ago.
הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות
הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות

הלכה פסוקה - שו''ע רנ''א סעיף ג
3 months ago

See Rashi in this week’s parsha.
כי יהיה בך אביון מאחד אחיך באחד שעריך
פירש”י, עניי עירך קודים לעיר אחרת

3 months ago

I run a chesed moisad in town ( for real) and always struggle to make payroll and this doesn’t bother me. Hashem is in charge there’s plenty money for everyone and it’s our job to have better bitachon. Of course our town should support us first but that has no bearing on my matzav.

Last edited 3 months ago by Fundraiser
3 months ago

If the 3/4 of a billion dollars that was sent this year to the keren of Israeli yeshivas was spent to help our own these people could be helped.

Let's walk the walk
3 months ago

I’m assuming anyone who’s giving a 👎 to a post is someone who’s not struggling ‘cuz they can’t possibly understand the pain of the choke. Maybe as a whole “we did it to ourselves” but not everyone is keeping up with the Joneses & are still drowning.

Maybe we can all switch places? So the rich can feel the sting & the poor can feel how pulled the wealthy feel. They say you need to walk a mile in someone’s shoes to understand them.

Mine are from Old Navy so I hope they’re comfortable.

Ed f
3 months ago

Silly

me too
3 months ago

The answer is simple. There are mosdos and even people who cry wolf when they don’t need. They also use tzedaka as a crutch instead of doing their hishtadlus to earn the money they need. How is a gvir supposed to know that their situation is real? Only when they get foreclosed or shut down or sent home from school do they know… Quite frankly there are enough cases where money and time can be put and a gvir KNOWS that his money is not being taken by greedy or lazy people

Ball Habus and Supporter
3 months ago

On the comments that the mosdos have priority. The community orgs that are truly community have a easier time getting funding many times. Its very hard for me to give to schools that say you aren’t for us. My kids school i do give bh.I have responsibility to support every single school. In regard to helping people need. Tomchei Shabbos gives out millions yearly in funding and almost all of lakewood is aware of moadim lesimcha. Don’t be stupid. Grvirim are fund this. In regard to personal people struggling my heart goes out to you. May heashek give u your needs quickly and painlessly bekarov.

Anon
3 months ago

For everyone talking about the money raised for Eretz Yisrael and all the Israeli meshulachim, there is a Halacha (I heard this once, it could be I’m not remembering correctly) that the poor of Eretz Yisrael are considered aniyei irecha.

Mekor please
Reply to  Anon
3 months ago

Can someone please post any mekor that ey is the same/before our community?

boruch
3 months ago

We need to focus more on lowering the cost of living in this town. People giving out large checks to tzedakos has led us to have misplaced bitachon on the very wealthy.

The average family buying a house now is expected to come up with at least 50k a year for the mortgage. Another 20k in tuition. Another 8k in daycare.

This is before all other costs of living.

It’s a miracle we don’t see more foreclosures at the moment.

Going out to work is not a solution for many, as going out to work will increase your tuition costs, and if you make enough for that to be worth it, it will take you off programs.

This current housing market is a package of bad news for any school which thinks that it’s budget will covered at all in the future by parents.

Any Rabbonim encouraging people to buy without the money and rely on bitachon bear a responsibilty to fundraise and cover these peoples bills if they head towards foreclosure. (or the schools budgets hurt by this market).

If you make bad life decisions for people who trust you, you are responsible.

Berel
Reply to  boruch
3 months ago

People have a hard time to causes they dont know personally or have a connection to. Everyone has their own places. If a central org that vets people’s situation and needs is made that would help a lot. Unfortunately, people have a hard time trusting random people saying this is the situation as they hsve been burned.In regards to mosdos. If you open a yeshiva unless you have backing you will struggle. You cant expect everyone to support your specific mosdos. Our masser is limited. There are also some community orgs that are duplicates and more providing the same service.

Chaya Taub
3 months ago

This article on the heels of Elul is soo distasteful. As a newcomer to Lakewood, the internal Chesed that is done is beyond amazing. The salaries that these gevierim pay are double the market value for the jobs in the “real” world, and the amount of Tzedaka I have personally witnessed them give for local Lakewood institutions goes beyond the 10s of millions raised for Eretz Yisroel (which they have as much chiyuv as local). It’s sad when you see people struggle and it hits hard – but that is absolutely not your place to put that onus on the wealthy. You are NOT entitled to tell them how to give their Tzedaka. They do plenty, probably more than they are even allowed to… khalacha. I firmly believe that this article be taken down and Machila should be asked

Mutty
3 months ago

To the author:
Don’t tell gevirim where, to whom & how they should give their tzedakah or maaser money.
Local businesses don’t charge 30% more, they have unique products, provide top service and help & don’t underpay their employees!
Since 2022 it’s been super hard times for everyone; over 80% of families everywhere don’t have an extra cent to their name and most have a bit of debt.
The gevirim help plenty but are NOT responsible for supporting the frum world.
Stop blaming everyone , roll up your sleeves and start using your brain to full capacity to earn a living for your family.

Joel wolh
3 months ago

The private WhatsApp status campaigns in this community are growing. Bh people are starting to notice their neighbors. Giving your friends simply to get through the week, pay their grocery bills tuition etc. but sadly it’s true that most of the givers are fellow struggling businessmen and workers. Not the millionaires. But that’s ok. We can all help our neighbors. The system won’t change. You can change.

Anonymous
3 months ago

While I hear the pain, there is one thing I don’t understand which is the lack of accountability. It’s very easy to blame your problems on others, it’s a lot harder to look at your own actions. Obviously all parnassah comes from Hashem but if you don’t do your hishtadlus how can you be upset?! So many of my friends went through the yeshiva system and “learned” for a few years (I put it in quotes bc I find it ironic that the people learning are always finding a reason to take off while people working/in school have to give up weddings/events etc to stay productive) and then found out that they have no potential to make money and they’re no different than everyone else trying to make money and then they want to know why they are struggling. Our education system is broken. I went through the yeshiva system and went to medical school to support my family (as it says in my kesuba). My brother in law went through the yeshiva system and is now in law school. I was moser necessary. I missed my friends weddings, I took out loans, yet it paid off. And now people come begging that they don’t have any jobs and they do nothing about it. I understand that some people can’t, but an entire city of people staying unemployed calling them selves in kollel has no good explanation (I’m not hating on people learning, those that are able are the holiest of the holy. I’m talking about the people that shouldn’t be but use it as an excuse to be on programs and not get jobs.) doing hishtadlus means pushing yourself outside your comfort zone and I don’t understand how everyone thinks they’re going to float through the system like everyone else and be better off than everyone else.

Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

The people down voting this…please explain why

Five Towns yid who supports kollel
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

Many struggling Dr’s and lawyers too. There is plenty of influential college trained professionals struggling. Its a complete disgrace to devalue torah learning. There are many who after leaving kollel that got good jobs and get degrees. You have no right to bash kollel. Its sounds like you are th ex yeshiva style person that feels we need to copy his way cuz he’s got the answers. Here in five towns tomchei shabbos is very busy unfortunately. Count your blessings that you have money and keep your hateful comments to your self.

Anonymous
Reply to  Five Towns yid who supports kollel
3 months ago

Absolutely no hate, and I am definitely not “ex yeshivish”. I learn, I wear a black hat etc. I am just commenting on the lack of accountability, people who want to be above everyone else yet have nothing to offer and don’t understand the basics of supply and demand. And to say there are doctors and lawyers struggling I completely agree the same way you have people with no education that are millionaires, but at the end of the day it’s going your hishtadlus and you will definitely be better off than not. Those who can stay in learning are definitely the holiest. Don’t try to rationalize by saying I’m ex Yeshivish. I went through the yeshiva system and even while I was in college I was learning more than my counterparts in yeshiva full time. It’s not a stirah. I worked hard, I missed my friends weddings, I didn’t go out to Glatt bite etc while all my friends “in learning” did. Explain that please

Bmg bench #7a Seat12
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

If u sent to college you aren’t a ben torah. Period. There are plenty of people that aren’t learning and are struggling due to lack of skills. There are many on kollel that have gr8 skills and climb the ladder very quickly. Picking on people in kollel specificly shows that your brain was warped by going to college. Why dont u attack your freinds that are partying? Just guys who are in kollel? Strange. Since when does a grub ballhabus have a right to say what the schedule of a kollel youngerman should be. If his shver or wife is supporting him they are OK. Not every person needs to learn 24 7 when they are in kollel. They have a right to live their own life. If you were truly a successful person you wouldn’t be bashing. You would suggest without bashing. You clearly have a bias here.p.s why aren’t u knocking the research analyst in labs who produce nothing 90 percent of the time. They aren’t either doing something productive. You are a young israel person with a Yeshivish spice maybe. You aren’t a ben torah remotely

Anonymous
Reply to  Bmg bench #7a Seat12
3 months ago

Wow strong words. Funny how you comment on me bashing when all you have done is called me “grub” and “not a Ben Torah” when you’ve never met me. I’m not going to stoop to low level of name calling ahem ahem. That doesn’t add to the debate, rather it just makes you seem babyish. Facts: 1) There are plenty of frum programs that can be done while in Yeshivah. 2) learning and working/getting an education are not mutually exclusive. 3) you can be yeshivish and go to college 4) just because someone is yeshivish doesn’t mean they are doing ratzon Hashem more/less. Like I said in my first post: the people learning are the holiest. However, if one can’t learn or just uses learning as an excuse to not be productive (while showing up late to Seder, spending more time in the coffee room, all things that wouldn’t fly while actually being productive-I show up to work at 7:30 every single day..how can someone who’s “learning” show up to Seder at 11 every single day. I know it happens). Stooping to name calling doesn’t change the facts. And sure jump to research, just shows how you have no clue what happens outside the Lakewood bubble of little education and unemployment.

Ataras Cuts Inc
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

My husband has adhd and it’s hard for him to sit. Im proud that he learns in bmg11 -5 every day. He takes breaks as much as he needs. I have no problem with him going to eat in glatt bite. Its hard to sit all day. Who decided what the schedule should be? A Dr. He comes 11 takes a couple of breaks and learns the rest of the day. Im a shateil macher. At night he does my billing and negotiating with vendors. Hes the best I could have gotten to. He could have chose to do this job my day. Instead he told me from day 1 I want to sit in kollel. This is what I could do. Many freinds are honest with their spouse as well.And yes we get programs. We are eligible. We pull out a basic salary and the rest is in the business for buissness expenses.

Shlomo
Reply to  Ataras Cuts Inc
3 months ago

Thanks atara. Appreciate you publicly explaining to this nut job what i do. Your the best wife!

Anonymous
Reply to  Bmg bench #7a Seat12
3 months ago

If I may just add you make a lot of blanket statements that are simply false (research, college etc) and a lot of statements that are just you trying to rationalize your feelings without any significance. Calling someone warped, labeling etc. is just your way of trying to tell me I’m wrong even though you don’t have a real reason. You decided I was wrong before you even thought about it. When I was in yeshiva I was told that it’s not possible to go to college and learn, yet when I was in college I learned more than most of my friends who spent their nights in Glatt bite. This is just to make a point that people like to decide what happens on the other side of the fence. I know what happens in many yeshivos, I was there. (I am not bashing the places where people actually learn!!!!) but there is nothing wrong with being productive

Baruch B Ceo Bli Neder LLC
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

If you truly believe that is the issue by kollel chillers how do u describe these people that dont learn in kollel who are asking crazy numbers at jobs with no skill set in site. Like 5k a week to manage a coffe shop. Or 8k a week to drive a bus? Skill set is missing in many people. Why kollel? Your idiotic attitude is that if kollel isn’t done on my terms it doesn’t count. Im in kollel. Wife is a np. I do amazon Bain hazmanim. Make 600k a year plus 250 from my wifes degree job. I learn in kollel on my own schedule. I have many freinds like me. You definitely dont knows us obviously. Additionally, how do u know who is going for training privately. Many people keep it quiet. The real party animals who barely learn are guys that dont last more than a couple of years at most. Let’s be fair. You as a so called Dr are out of Bmg circles. You clearly dont know the facts. There are plenty of chilled guys who are working with skills like yours and are poor. You dont know the entire bmg. I am in kollel with my job 20 years. Most people aren’t aware that I work.and yes. I eat out. Go on vacations and dont take a kollel check. BTW I could probably show you and your buddies how to make a buck or 2. You are full of hate and need a reality check.

Kalman Beck
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

You learned but it didn’t go in to you. If you were told in yeshiva not to go to college why did u go? Obviously ,you dont value what was taught to you. Many dr offices start at 11am too. Are they not productive? Just a quick question. Is it the code of ethics to get up 730? Does it say that in any medical book. Its your personal opinion. I happen to work hard nights and drag myself out of bed to learn. Its hard. I dont share with people my job. I push myself to learn. I am amazed how closed minded you are that you feel people that come late to seder aren’t interested in learning . Drs that worked nights in the hospital did u learn the next day seven hours with breaks u didn’t. I manage a wearhouse 6pm to 12 every night. Im exhausted. Yet I kill myself to learn. Learn the facts.

Berel Grupokov
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

If daas torah says no to college and you say yes then you are warped. Which gadol allowed you to go to medical school? Not from the oilam hayeshivos. I run maintenance for a ny state health care facility. My Dr’s come in 11 every day. Shmooze to staff a ton. And then bill a ton. I’ll admit they are educated just in stealing. Hardly productive. Don’t care about pt. Only money.

Balabus in Kollel
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

Learned how to judge others unfavorable. Impossible not to be exposed to the woke ideology. If there is anyone that is flashing that their better it’s you. Your article is based on what you did and how u did it. You forget parnassah comes from hashem. Not the best career for many as reimbursement is low. It was hishtadlus for you not for the world. I married a rich girl that has a gr8 job. That’s my hishtadlus. I learn on my own. No regular kollel schedule. Flip cars on the side and do home repairs. Wife is a lawyer. She owned our house b4 getting married. I make a decent living. I enjoy life. Don’t take a kollel check. Life is awesome. Love glatt bite! Big shout out to Yeruchem Gelb. Tysm for making a kosher place with great prices in the heart of lakewood. Sesame chicken is awesome. Im getting hungry just thinking about. Let me Finnish my blatt first though.

Shira Rn
Reply to  Anonymous
3 months ago

As a nurse I’m baffled. Most Dr’s show up very late,barely care about the patients and complain non stop how tight it is. Unless you are private pay or have a huge practice u aren’t making big money. Wouldn’t recommend anyone to become a dr for money. My kollel freinds make very close as it’s do in benefits. Hud,food stamps,etc.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Removed?

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Issac
3 months ago

Good point
I have been saying this for over 30 years

shmendrik
3 months ago

As someone who has had income issues numerous, I can say i feel for tghose in need. However, If you don’t go to the Gvir, he doesn’t know you’re struggling. The question is, if themosdos know you’re struggling, why aren’t they contacting a Gvir on your behalf? Remember, the gvir can only help someone he knows needs assistance. He dosn’t have ruach hakodesh.

Asken
3 months ago

A lot of what he wrote is just simply untrue.
its too long to go through it all, but the letter writer who prob himself is struggling, has zero idea of the millions of tzedakah given out quietly without anyone knowing about it, many times the recover may not even know .

Gvi style asken
Reply to  Asken
3 months ago

Yes ,many NOT millions, people need car repairs or back or utilities paid Who is advertising this NOBODY,BMG will spend 100’s K to make millions,that really doesn’t help the rest unless you pull and assist all then it’s just a business

Avrumi Weissman
3 months ago

Well said kudos for the strength of writing it! And I love the Dan Lekav Schus About the comment regarding the person who meant to put a thumbs up and put a thumbs down.

Regarding the businesses overcharging, while I agree, it’s a problem who is the one supporting it??? It’s us. We have the power to stop it by not agreeing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing, and not agreeing to go out to several hundred dollar dinners.

We can all make a great Parnossah If we do not take advantage of the communities needs, and I’ll keep each other in mind when running a business. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a good living, I agree that the retailers could probably be Easier with their pricing and still make a great living. Don’t forget the Torah says you’re only allowed to charge 1/6 More than is normal.

Like I said, the power is in our hands, the consumer, to bring things back under control.