1. I always that that the white lines in the parking lot are made so that ppl park in between the lines. Lately I realized that the lines are made to park on.

   • Asinine Commenter, you have a new name tonight? 😃

2. I feel like it would’ve been better to leave a note to the driver, instead of posting this here. Why publicize someone’s wrongdoing? They made a mistake – they should’ve had half a brain and not done that. Maybe they were in a rush and didn’t realize?

   This is one of the reasons I always park far away from everyone else, where there’s almost no cars. Because I don’t want or need other cars near me, or the risk of them dinging my car.

   • Seriously? Have you ever been to Lakewood? If This happened once or twice, You can try to think that way, but this is an everyday occurrence with people being inconsiderate and just parking either crooked or on the line or in handicap spaces. Because why not? You also mentioned that you tried to park where there’s no cars. The person wrote in their letter that they parked with no cars near them and because of the size of a lot of parking lots, a lot of them are full even if you park far away.

     The only solution is for people to go back to kindergarten to learn how to color in the lines again. (And to learn how to be a mentch)

   • Sorry “Speedy Yid”, but I disagree. The OP is doing nothing more than making a Public Service announcement, in order to bring awareness to people about the need for consideration when parking. Nothing wrong with that at all.

   • There was a photo on SM today of a non-handicapped car parked in a handicap space. Apparently a handicapped boxed him in.
     Was this you?
     Ps. He deserved it..

   • No one knows how it was so what publicizing are you talking about?
     I see you prioritize the safety of your car over your time. Park where everyone else does and you’ll probably save time with a shorter walk to the store.

     • Its inconsiderate. There’s no excuse unless there’s someone dying because you can’t take an extra 7 seconds to park normally. Same people that come back to their car with a cart and can’t walk it back 25 feet to where it belongs they will put it in the spot next to theirs. Not saying it’s everyone but it’s the lazy inconsiderate people that makes parking in lakewood lots frustrating. Be a mentch

   • while I understand your frustration, based on the picture I saw, it’s worth noting that your own parking was problematic. You were parked crooked a and about 12-15 inches over the line. I don’t know that I would have blocked your car in, but it’s important to recognize that parking in such an inconsiderate way sets off a chain reaction. This might be a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Let’s all strive to be more mindful when parking to avoid situations like this.

3. I agree 100%. Today I went to a parking lot and I couldn’t park in most spots because cars were parked way over the lines. It’s completely inconsiderate.

4. Ha! I was thinking of sending in a similar letter the other day.
   I’ve been unable to get into my car several times.
   Another parking issue is when people park where there is NO parking spot.
   I understand that it’s hard to find parking sometimes so people park wherever they can leave their car but I’ve gotten stuck in my spot because ppl parked illegally behind me thinking there was enough room but there certainly wasn’t enough and there was no way out with scraping both their car and mine.
   And just the other night at a chasuna there were cars parked recklessly and cars were getting stuck trying to simply drive through the lanes or make a turn because there was no room to squeeze through.
   And then there are those that park in handicap spots…. I won’t even go there. I just want to be Dan leaf zechus that they left their handicap sign at home.
   I know I know I know, you also need a place to park. I’ve been there. But it’s not ok not to be a mentch. Recently heard a shiur that “A great person is someone that cares about other people, not just themselves.”

   • Wow! I just crashed and I like parking on the lines like grammar gemarah

5. @speedy yid: it happens all the time! It isn’t just one person’s wrongdoing.

   Ppl: please check that ur parked in the lines before going into stores.

6. Yes, a note on the car but this is a very good reminder for all of lakewood not just that car.

7. There should be an ordinance in Lakewood setting the minimum width of spaces.

8. Even if you park far away from everyone, depends on how long you might be in the store. In that time other shoppers are parking.

   The man said that he parked without other cars near him.

9. I, too, had a similar experience today at (moderated) Plaza.
   The spots are small to begin with, and as I was pulling into a space I realized that with the adjacent car over the line, I couldn’t use the spot. After parking elsewhere I asked the driver (who was sitting in his car talking on the phone) to please park his car properly.
   Another gripe is about people leaving their carts in parking spots, sometimes handicapped spots. This makes the space(s) unusable. Don’t be lazy and inconsiderate. Park properly and return your carts!

10. i love the big tzadikim -maybe they were in a rush, we are all in rushes, its absolutely wrong and needs to be called out without saying their name., great awareness, to people that have no midose!

11. why publicize it?? because i see it being done every time i go shopping, if the rebbi/parents never taught them , hopefully this post will sinK into those, that never learned, “good midose” MEANS THINKING ABOUT OTHERS!!!

12. It’s an issue where people turn into a spot without straightening out and they end up on an angle taking up part of the spot next to them.
    It’s also an issue where many of our shopping centers have narrow parking spaces due to the fact that they want to have more spaces in their parking lot. I wonder if there’s an official size a space needs to be.

13. The worst is the ones that take up two spots in a busy parking lot! There are limited spots as it is that to me is the biggest wonder. How could you park over the white line making it impossible for the next spot to be occupied. Yes all the reasons they don’t realize and apparently they were in a rush etc. But be honest it takes a few extra seconds the same way you pulled in you adjust your vehicle so your only taking up one place. Instead of pulling in crooked not allowing anyone to get in next to you and it’s extremely common every single day I look out for it and notice many! So once your bringing up the topic….

    • True, and even if it takes more than a few seconds, it still doesn’t give one the right to take two spaces. Be considerate and don’t do to others what you don’t want to be done to you! Create a kiddush Hashem, and not c’v the oposite.

14. Worst is trying to get a baby in the car when the car is too close! I have to put my car seat in the trunk and pull out then put the car seat in the right seat!! It’s insane and should be given tickets if it’s done. It’s not right

15. Agree. Park like a mentch. Fyi, many ppl park incorrectly just because the car next to them is not parked correctly so just know that mnay times, you see only half the story.

16. Whenever this happens to me I assume it’s a Talmud Chacham in a rush to get to Kollel & not wanting to waste even a precious second of learning by parking properly.
    I leave a note on their car with a Bracha that they should learn well & my name that some of their learning should be a zchus for me.
    I asked my Ruv (& noted Posek) about “Derech Eretz Kudma L’Torah”
    My Ruv explained that’s an invention of the Modern Orthodox (like the Reforms one & only Mitzvah of “Tikkun Olam”) in order to justify their lackadaisical attitude towards Halacha. The Ruv continued, “Of course it’s easy to park properly when you can run into any Goyish store to buy Cholov Treif. But when you’re like us who Daven Mincha with a Minyan (do the Modernisha even Daven at all?) parking blocking a Goy’s driveway is as good a place as any.
    Let’s all take a positive attitude & judge ALL Yidden favorably by assuming they have a good reason for doing what they did.

    • I don’t know who your Ruv is. But Apparently he isn’t such a big talmid Chacham becuase, Derech Eretz Kodma Latorah is a Chazal.

17. I can’t say that this specifically is what happened in your case, but have you considered whether you were parked too close to (or even over) the line?
    Often times when I am pulling into a Crowder parking lot and there is a tight space and The person on one side of the space is parked irresponsibly, and the person on the other side is parked responsibly. I will park in a manor that respects the responsible parkers effort.
    If you could not be bothered to Park properly and the space that I am pulling into is too narrow to accommodate you and the person on the other side of me, I will accommodate the person that parked properly.

    Also, since you mention that you are older, have you considered the possibility that you are just a grumpy old person making a to do about a minor incident?

    • There are grumpy and inconsiderate people of all ages out there.

18. Addressing Ger Chusid’s point:
    I was once parking in a very full parking lot. As I was pulling into my spot, I noticed a driver in my rear view mirror gesturing to me. I of course had no idea what she was trying to tell me. After I parked, she strode over and very indignantly told me off for how inconsiderately I parked. I said,”Huh, I’m between my 2 white lines”. She said, “Yes, but the car next to you is in 2 spots. If you would have parked in the remaining half of the spot next to you, and in half of the spot you’re in now, you would have left room for another car”(hers).
    So then what happens when the first guy pulls out?? Ppl would post letters about how inconsiderately I parked? No thanks

19. Wow! This letter sounds as if I had written it. This happened to me just a short while ago. I parked crefully at Gourmet Glatt North making sure sure the car on my right and left had plenty of room. In fact on my driver side there was no car and the space was very ample for another car to park easily leaving me enough room to enter my car. When I came out of the store, I was dismayed to see that someone had parked thereon an angle leaving no room for me to walk from the back of the car to the front. It was very close to my car and in the front, it was also to tight to open the door and enter. He had plenty of room on his driver side. I went back inside to GG and asked at the courtesy booth if they could page whoever it was that had parked there. He couldn’t, told me a different store worker possibly could. I had to wait quite sometime before that person could help me as he was busy with another customer. When I finally could talk to him, he said he couldn’t page anyone, but he was very nice and came out to my car and climbed over the passenger seat and backed out my car so I could get in. It wasn’t easy for him to climb over the seat because of the console between the seats, and he was younger and more long legged than me. I did leave a note on the other cars window. All this took a lot of my precious time. I was very annoyed to say the least.

20. I agree 100% with all the comments. Some people park very selfishly. I just want to point out that when you see a car parked over a line, its possible that he was not the selfish one, but the guy next to him at the time he parked was.

21. to all new comers to Lakewood, fyi when pathmark opened up in this location they went to Lakewood township planning board for a variance to reduce requirement of 9 ‘wide parking spots to 8’ wide, as to make up additional parking spots needed to conform to the grocery shopping Plaza, they DID receive that variance approval, so there is the true answer to the problem, it’s all public records if you want to verify

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