Letter: Attention Camp Directors

Imagine if we invite you for Shabbos and suggest you park in our neighbor’s driveway. Our house can’t accommodate many cars, but his driveway is wide and spacious. If you need to use the bathroom or dispose of trash from your travels, feel free to do so right there as well. Now, imagine if other neighbors had the same idea that very same week…

And how about if that unwitting family also has company that week? In all fairness and decency, they do not have to double-check with all the neighbors to be allowed to host. The guests would arrive, confused as to why they can’t park and unload, even late at night, and the poor homeowners would be torn between annoyance at the audacity of these neighbors and the expectation to maintain good relations, even when the neighbors are quite remiss in that respect.

This scenario is similar to when a camp or organization decides to meet in a store or hall parking lot.

Plainly stated, ample parking is crucial for businesses.

Parking lots are private property intended and paid for by renters and tenants. Customers are drawn to places with easy and convenient parking and blocking parking without permission can cause significant losses for businesses. Just as you wouldn’t park in a random driveway, parking in a spot designated for business patrons is equally wrong.

As managers of various businesses in Lakewood, we regularly face this issue, particularly during the summer, when we can’t anticipate when the next surprise will disrupt us. Multiple camps arriving suddenly, buses settling in wherever they please, and an insane number of cars, parking haphazardly due to stress and tension.

The outcome is unhappy and frustrated tenants, parking lots littered with trash from excited kids (and their entourages), and unjust interruptions to commerce. To make matters worse, when we express our concerns, the “bus squatters” justify their actions and feign surprise that we don’t view this “parking lot service” as good customer relations.

This is an appeal to Schools, camps, and parents organizing transportation: Before choosing a venue, ensure its availability and obtain permission to use the parking lot. If you know any business in that lot, obtaining a telephone number or email of a landlord or management company is very straightforward. A simple request will alleviate unknown pressures, enable proper scheduling, and provide clear parking guidelines for buses and cars.

This approach will be more pleasant and agreeable for all parties involved and contribute to our shared goal of acting with integrity and most importantly, Yashrus, in all our endeavors.

Thanks.

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Call for Action
5 months ago

I know of a camp that does not have bussing…. you can probably imagine what dismissal time looks like…. this camp has no system , they don’t do different shifts or have different letters of the alphabet wait at different corners with a counselor..
rightfully so neighbors got annoyed and tried to speak to someone from the day camp,
whoever answered the phone basically said that there is nooone to talk to..
I know what happened next.
Attention day camp owners, don’t let this happen to you.
Attention everyone, lets try to be considerate while parking even if its “just for one minute”.. we need to be more focused on making Kiddush Hashem too!!

RebbeIwantToLearn!
5 months ago

Although I can understand your frustration, if it is actually private property, and you think they are unjustified in being there, call the police and have them towed!
Also, aren’t they providing business to a bunch of your neighbors who share the parking lot with you? (This does not compare to your neighbors driveway)

Pfeffercook
Reply to  RebbeIwantToLearn!
5 months ago

A boys’ camp going to do their nails perhaps?

Lakewood Yid
Reply to  RebbeIwantToLearn!
5 months ago

That’s probably their argument – and why the stores don’t actually stop it. Still, it doe make sense to park properly and make sure children don’t block where cars need to drive, and not throwing garbage on floor etc.
Talk to children, and make it into a Kiddush Hashem experience. And every vehicle coming there too, should be focused.

Parent of children using buses
Reply to  Lakewood Yid
5 months ago

Looks like you hate buses for other reasons…

If the bus is there I guess he came there to visit a store in that parking lot, he has the same right to park there as you, it doesn’t say how big the car needs to be to be able to park there, if there isn’t a designated parking for buses they’ll park wherever they see empty spots.

Anyway, We all know that hashem sends business, by having these parking spots you won’t make a dollar more…

Pfeffercook
Reply to  Parent of children using buses
5 months ago

H-shem provides parnassa. But parking where you shouldn’t possibly constitutes gezel. If the bus is there as a patron, he is welcome to park. But if he is just commandeering the parking lot and causing 50 or 100 extra cars to block the lot and cause havoc, then NO. he is not a patron and the busses and their passengers do not belong there.

Eli
Reply to  RebbeIwantToLearn!
4 months ago

I think that every frum business owner would rather not have to call the towing company on fellow Yidden.
Also, at least 99% of those showing up are not patronizing the local shops when coming to meet the bus.
The mashal of the neighbor’s driveway is very applicable.

Lakewood mom
4 months ago

And if you are using the public school parking lot,please keep in mind that there are families living there year round !!!
Kids come back from a trip late at night or bring dropped off to camp and our kids are woken up from crazy noise, excited kids screaming, cars honking as if it’s not the middle of the night!!!

LESSOR
4 months ago

Its a shame that the gezel that is spoken of here has the misfortune of being relegated to a mere issue d’araisa. Now, if it had been a chumra with absolutely no source or basis in halacha or minhag, then it would certainly be scrupulously adhered to.

#teenagebrilliance
4 months ago

I DO NOT THINK IT’S OKAY AND IT MUST BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY!