This Sunday night, 23 Av, Camp Ruach Chaim will, b’ezras Hashem, witness history in the making. CRC is proving that Bein Hazmanim isn’t only about relaxation—it can be a revolution.
After a summer packed with ruach, competitive leagues, nonstop energy, and thousands of blatt learned by campers, staff, alumni, and fathers alike, the season will culminate in a massive Siyum HaShas—the likes of which the camping world has never seen.
The achdus and sense of purpose are palpable. Between camp activities, bochurim are “chapping arein” every spare moment to finish their limud—some even tackling a “Round 2” in these final days. It’s all wrapped in the ultimate simchas haTorah, charged with CRC’s trademark spirit.
The evening will feature a keynote address from Rav Uren Reich shlita, Rosh Yeshiva of Woodlake Yeshiva. Produced by Stellar Productions, this will be no ordinary camp program.
Forget plain old concerts—this summer’s main event is the exhilarating joy of being mesayem Shas.
One camp. One Shas. One unforgettable night.
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The word concert shod be seen a treife word. The rent Ribo Concert in Catskills and a few years ago in MSG (pun-intended) was fully mixed and ladies singing along loudly. Crazy heads. Chotei Umachti es harabim, shegadol hamachtio yoser min hahorgo.
A siyum is not absolutely necesary – it could be an end-of-season melava malka, but it’s certainly nice.
what a fabulous idea !!!!
The word concert should be seen as a treife word.
The recent Ribo Concert in the Catskills – at the site of the horrifically
treif Woodstock concert, no less, and another one he made a few years ago in
MSG (pun-intended, in this case [unhealthy chemical “food” additive]) was fully
mixed with ladies singing along loudly. Crazy heads. Chotei umachti es harabim,
shegadol hamachtio yoser min hahorgo. All gedolim have paskened that concerts
are ossur gamur.
So even for a boys’ camp, I think the word should
not be used. So, it’s no major tzidkus to change the title.
A siyum is not absolutely necessary – it could be
an end-of-season melava malka, but it’s certainly nice.
Hatzlacha
The word concert should be seen as a treife word.
Regular concerts are a mixed crowd – with ladies singing along loudly. Chotei umachti es harabim,
shegadol hamachtio yoser min hahorgo. All gedolim have paskened that concerts are ossur gamur.
So even for a boy’s camp, I think the word should
not be used. So, it’s no major tzidkus to change the title.
A siyum is not absolutely necessary – it could be
an end-of-season melava malka, but it’s certainly nice.
Hatzlacha
The word “seuda” should be seen as a treife word.
The Seuda of Achashveirosh was fully mixed, with women singing along loudly. Crazy heads. Chotei umachti es harabim, shegadol hamachtio yoser min hahorgo. All gedolim have paskened that such seudos are ossur gamur.
So even for a boys’ camp, I think the word should not be used.
A Siyum is not absolutely necessary—it could be an end-of-season melava malka—but it’s certainly nice.
The analogy doesn’t work because of the basic premise of what a concert is. The difference is: That seudah was an exception to what the word seudah usually refers to. Whereas when referring to a concert, a kosher one is the very rare exception.
The simple answer would be that there is no such thing as a kosher concert. Even when they promise it will be “better”, it is not – no concert has ever been – not in America and not in E”Y etc. The point is that the rabbanim have assured all concerts – that is certainly true.
There was an earthquake on Tish B’av in the NY-NJ area, and the Thurs. after, the concert in Catskills at the same location as the infamous Woodstock gathering. (Half a million hippies gathered in in 1969 in what ended up being a terribly treif gathering – and all the organizers knew it would be – and WANTED it.)
And the concert there now after TB”A was already being advertised for several weeks. Treif. But those who make it are blinded by the money and “kavod” (although really ein kavod elah Torah -mishna Avos). They’ll claim it’s better than other things, so it’s a bit hard to argue with them, but the fact is that it’s ossur.
sorry for the duplicate posts, it didn’t seem to be going, and when I did it again, it said already posted. I guess they’re ironing out the glitches.
Also, I’d suggest to put the ‘post’ button under the math question, as it comes after that (sometimes you forget and it reminds you)
It’s a financial decision- to save money! Singers cost owners $$$.
Is there going to be a hired singer there? Who will he be? Hopefully not an idol star – who makes concerts – which are ossur, and makes it ossur to hire him. (I have no idea if/who they’ll have, just asking, since this was publicized.)
Do you get a high every time you write “assur”???
There are Gedolim who permit concerts when there’s no women there. Chill Reb Yid!
The gedolim have assured concerts even when ‘al tzad haysoer tov’ – and even for men only. Obviously, a kumzitz in a home or a real siyum – of a mossad, shul etc, is perfectly fine.
You said some were mattir for men only, can you give one name?
I have nothing against this camp, and I don’t even know if they were the ones who said ‘it’s in place of a concert’, but other camps do make a ‘concert’, whcih basically means they bring in music and a singer and it’s just that. What’s the point – l’simcha ma zo asa? If it’s simcha shel mitzvah, there is a point.
And by the way, plays about teh Holocaust – stam shtus. If there is a hashgacha pratis story or chesed or mesiras nefesh for mitzvos, that is a point, but gory details is shtusat best; gedolim have said NOT to teach that – it’s just continuing the Holocaust. It’s traumatic and leaves children/bochurim with strong questions and it places a damper on their simchas hachayim and shetiging, and it DEIFNITELY does not help to have better middos etc.
Granted, the fact that a chashuve yid will be speaking there, apparently settles it, but it is a heads up to all people making gatherings: Don’t use chotim umachtiim es harabim, and don’t idolize idol stars, but DO make nice gatherings, and DO have people who can play and sing nicely, THAT is a big miztavh!