Igud Hamosdos: There’s a severe shortage of space in local Mosdos; Secure a school before moving to the Lakewood area

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Many in Lakewood have been saying this for years and it goes unheard and it’s a real tragedy but this is the only city that has the school problem that we do the schools are all out for themselves and their image.
Ateres Tzipora was the only school that actually cared about the klal.
I won’t name names but if there’s a school that declines a single case unless it’s truly extreme the people running their school are just like the corrupt Democrat politicians pretending to be looking out for you when all they’re doing is looking out for themselves.
I think it might be a good idea if you read a book called, “The other side of the story”. The author is Rebetzin Yehudis Samet, ArtScroll Series.
Problem is: I wonder… if you don’t live in Lakewood you would be put at the bottom of the waiting list and Lakewood schools have a responsibility to accept Lakewood residents before others. I’d love to hear from Lakewood otherwise.
Schools are not required to expand. Parents are required to find something appropriate that meets their family’s need. It should not be the klal’s worry, It is the new homebuyers worry and it should be that way.
Lakewood has this problem, Monsey has this problem, schools in Brooklyn are all very full too. This problem will only get worse and worse. Telling people not to move to an area doesn’t really solve much, as B”H the next generation is growing exponentially.
Instead of telling struggling families to stay put, it’s time for an all hands on deck situation. Our leaders, community leader, and askonim need to make opening new schools the highest priority issue. It’s a critical issue that’s absolutely essential for the next generation and their yiddishkeit. , Drastic options need to be taken. All other community projects should be temporarily be put aside, and all energies should be focused on this.
Just talking about it won’t get us anywhere.
Can you make sure this message gets out to the whole Brooklyn etc!!!!!!!
I agree… telling people to not move here is not realistic. People sometimes don’t have a choice. In addition the bulk of the people who are having a hard time getting into school are young local families… there needs to be major intervention by our community leaders to make any kind of improvement on this totally dysfunctional situation. Talking about it and barking up the wrong trees isn’t helping anyone.
Why are the schools the problem and who is stopping anyone from opening a school go right ahead ! But you can’t force a school to expand
no you cant force a school to expand but you can expect the vaad to take care of the klal and if there arent enough schools for the population, opening new schools should be the highest priority, like in the comments above.
I’m actually involved with a new school opening! Guess what?? Hardly any applicants! No one wants the new schools, and people who are willing to open for the tzibur have to shvitz and get bizyonos like you can’t imagine. The solution is not solely new school, knocking sense into “Lkwd judgemental sickness” is what needs to change.
The issue here is an unfortunate shortage of schools due to the huge population growth in Lakewood ka”h (both current residents and families moving in). Let’s not make it about schools being elitist or leaving people out. They are doing klal work and should be appreciated. They simply don’t have enough slots!
AT THIS POINT IT IS THE DEVELOPERS AND REALTORS RESPONSIBILITIES TO FUND NEW SCHOOLS AND ENCOURAGE THEIR CLIENTS TO ATTEND THESE SCHOOLS. A WAY OF ENCOURAGING THEIR CLIENTS TO ENROLL IN A NEW SCHOOL WOULD PERHAPS BE FOR THEM TO PLACE THEIR CHILDREN, AND OR GRANDCHILDREN IN THESE NEW SCHOOLS.
why are you yelling
The first comment is one of the reasons we have a problem. Every school in Lakewood just about has class sizes at least 30 per cent more than normal and this commenter is blaming the schools . It costs many millions of dollars to expand school buildings and people are taking vacations to Cancun and building mega mansions while adsking for tuition discounts ,and this commenter is blaming the schools . No wonder most people don’t want to open schools if all they get is being called nasty names and told that its their responsibility to come up with millions of dollars to expand so people can buy mansions in Lakewood and not contribute anything.
#8, Bd – is 100000% right.
And that’s an inconvenient truth no one wants to hear.
There are several new schools & they are NOT full. Not even close. NO one wants to send there. Everyone wants the OLD school. It can take 4-5 years till it gets to “in demand” status. ( A recent exception would be Oros Bais Yaakov, which, less than 2 years after opening was already forced to turn away applicants) So there really isn’t a school shortage – there’s a shortage of space in the well knows schools.
Hatzlocha to all
There are valid reasons people don’t want a new school. Every school is bound to have growing pains at some point also they have no proven track record. Every year is a new inexperienced Rebbi …. and in the case of girls high schools when there is only a ninth grade they don’t get the full high school experience. With that being said people do send to new schools when they have no other option and usually it works out ok. I sent to a yeshiva that was the third year in , now it is impossible to get into it is the most fabulous school!!! But even so there was so growing pains things they needed to get a handle in BH it worked out amazing for us, but there are valid concerns with sending to a brand new school.
I am personally on the board of a very large school, and I can’t agree more with the comment made about our developers and realtors. They are the ones raking it in, by the millions, don’t contribute a penny to the new mosdos struggling severely with finances, to try to accommodate the people that they lured in to buy here. How dare you blame the roshei mosdos that give away they’re whole life to try and accommodate the Klal!! Regarding the vaad. I have news for you, it’s been long overwhelmed and basically given up!
Thank you
This is exactly what Mashiach was waiting to hear. A person who is claiming to be a Rav, speaking in a not nice manner.
First of all, are you sure they are raking in millions? Do you work in their accounting dept.? So you are 100% positive that these realtors and developers are not even donating one penny. How do you know so much?
Did you hire a private detective agency?
Hashem was not happy when Penina spoke in a way that hurt feelings.
Developers and realtors are human beings. They have feelings. Before you accuse them, please do true and honest research and not like certain fake news organizations. I can’t imagine that you are a true Rav in the eyes of Hashem. Sorry for the truth and by the way I am trying to help you . I am not trying to hurt your feelings in any way.
totally agree that we must give the benefit of the doubt to developers as well as new residents. however, in any of the development plans, have amounts been earmarked for schools, shuls and other communal buildings? When selling a family a house, the children of that home will need schools. if you are benefitting financially by using Lakewood’s great reputation as your selling point, put money back into the town by investing in Chinuch! And more money will mean existing schools will have the ability to expand and hire additional faculty members and build more classrooms, lunchrooms and batei medrash. And perhaps it will give a push for the opening of new schools. The new Chassidishe neighborhoods made sure to have mosdos chinuch in place for their families.
What rav ever calls themselves “A Rav”? I’ve received phone calls from some very choshove people and they always address themselves with humility, whiteout giving themselves any titles.
Responding to A Rav. Your thought is excellent. In Monsey where I live, the Town, before it became corrupt, made developers put in sidewalks. One of the cominities in the ouskirts of Monsey made everybody contribute $5000 toward a shabbos mikva. A fund should be set up requiring developers and new residents to contribute and this fund should be managed by the Rabonim.
Why would you blame the developers? Its their fault there are so many kids in this town? The fact that Jackson and Toms river are so high in demand that you can hardly find a house there proves that that the growth has nothing do do with the developers in Lakewood, if anything they are just trying to keep up with the crazy demand by building houses for all the families that need them. Everyone wants to live here now, and yes maybe we need more Schools, but stop blaming people for it.
Why are we always looking for people to blame?
once in a while a single comment blows open all the arguments
is # 8 correct are there schools in lakewood with less than 25 kids per class that have space?
are the chassidishe taking in their own meaning is it a certain segment of the frum lakewood population thats struggling or across the board
these answers make a huge diff
because of the ‘judgemental sickness’ and pathetic peer pressure, everyone wants to send to same few schools, and those elite schools themselves aren’t interested in accepting anyone other than those that fit their cookie cutter (judgemental again) mold…
I would like take back my earlier comments that where taken to far, and written out of frustration and pain that all these families are going through. I didn’t mean to blame the developers. But I do feel very strongly that the people benefiting largely(btw I know the profits that they are earning)from the new housing projects, should try to put aside some masser to help out the extreme situation. I do ask for forgiveness if my comments hurt anyone. The developers and realtors on this town are some of the finest families in our beautiful community. But we must wake up and really try harder! Btw I’m not a rav, and I don’t represent daas Torah!
To Bd
Maybe introducing something A little different will attract students to your new school.
Example:
No homework (many parents happy)
Less academic more focused on life skills
For girls
Focusing on being a homemaker and setting aside time part of the curriculum to do cooking and baking in school etc..