Dozens of Lakewood Girls Still in Search of a High School as School Year Nears

Approximately 90 girls have yet to be placed in a high school for the upcoming school year, and with mere weeks remaining before girls head back to school, askanim are working overtime to ensure that each girl is placed. 

According to one individual involved in the efforts who spoke to TLS, there is some talk of delaying the start of the school year for high school girls until everyone can be placed – as they did last year – but they hope such a move will not be necessary.

There are approximately 25-30 children who have not yet been placed in an elementary school either, but the number of girls not yet in a high school is the most pressing matter right now, as askanim believe they can have all girls going into elementary schools placed before the scheduled start of the school year.

Placing girls into high schools has posed a bigger issue for askanim than placing girls into elementary schools, as new high schools open less frequently than do schools for younger children.

Girls school are currently scheduled to begin just a week before Rosh Hashana due to how the calendar falls out this year.

 

 

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34 COMMENTS

  1. Lakewood educational leadership has been so progressive by having one entrance exam test day and one actual test. They need to carry that excellent process a bit further and not send out HS acceptance letters until every girl has been placed. These 90 girls are not “problem” girls. They are solid girls with stellar hashkafa and come from stable, yeshivishe homes. I know that personally. But at 13, being put into this “eirev rav” category is so demoralizing. This must be addressed. Please!! For the sake of our future mothers!!

  2. This will always be an issue until the entire high school system is in under one umbrella network, which won’t happen. But, for all the Lakewood haters, be my guest and open a high school to address this issue. It’s always easy to call the shots from a couch……….

  3. this is a SHAM.
    this is said and reported yearly and high schools still open up with girls b ot having a school.

    I dont have kids in high school yet but i have seen it first hand from family friends and neighbors.

    “placing ” a girl in a high school decided by askanim is where she has to go does not equate to the girl “having a high school”.
    yes askanim have a hard job. but the helpless parents who are told what to do.. (and NOT those that just want what they consider an A-list school) have a harder job.

    I amnot denying it. There is easy solution other than opening up more high schools which is also not easy.

    but what cannot be denied is the missing heart in many cases. the “exclusiveness” schools try to keep.

    and the ..for lack of better word. lie that schools wint open till all girls are FAIRLY placed

  4. This is not an issue of exclusiveness at all!!!! There just simply is no room in the current high school classes!!!!! NO BLAME can be put on the mosdos at all. And the girls are also not to blame. There just simply is no room. I’m.not sure what the eitza is but if someone can drill into these girls that it is NOT personal, maybe it will help them going thru this.

  5. I just wonder why this has to wait until last minute. Why can’t the girls be placed before the summer and not have to deal with the agmas nefesh and anxiety of not knowing where they are going the whole summer? Yes, the schools have to finish up from last year, but why can they close for 4 weeks on vacation when there are neshamos suffering?

  6. With all due respect, I don’t buy the “there’s not enough room” line. When 8th graders register to take the central HS entrance exam, they have to list 4 preferred schools. All this information is submitted to the Vaad. This is a basic ratio. X number of applicants: X number of girls who need placement. So when the powers that be assign girls to schools in May, what happens those who are left behind?? Just left in a folder? It’s two weeks before school starts. Where is the central responsibility?
    There is something very wrong here. And it is our tayereh daughters who are left to suffer.

    • With all due respect to Brooklyn Bubby X number of applicants and X number of girls who need placement does not equate to X number of spaces.

      If you think that each school should just take 5 more girls each, well they have already done that, that done it again, at some point, they can not physically accommodate more children.

      I am not minimizing the problem, it is a huge problem, I am minimizing your oversimplification of the solution.

      What makes it more difficult, is that girls high schools are the most financially challenging school to open.

  7. Where to begin……
    I it being accepted into hs or being forced to go to a hs that is not for you, leads to depression, anxiety, substance abuse and a path towards destruction. I’m not exaggerating. It happened to my daughter.
    Girls literally have to be in therapy for years due to this trauma of not being accepted into schools.
    I will never put another child thru that.

    You see these girls. You judge these girls. Talk and ask them what has lead them to where they are now?

    I blame the hs. I blame the vaad. It here us no one to talk to. I have called and called so many diff numbers in the past. Not one ever picked up the phone. Go figure!!

    And you know what? Not only these girls suffer. Their siblings and parents do too. I have personally endured so much pain from this. Too many tears have been shed.
    I can go on and on. I beg and plead. Pls don’t let these girls suffer anymore.

  8. It’s true that it’s a numbers game, and the mosdos can’t bear all the blame if they don’t want to have overcrowded classes. However, there are newcomers to Lakewood whose children get into school right away, while girls who were born here have to suffer from waiting to be placed. Obviously there are some injustices being perpretrated by the mosdos too. Then there are girls who werer placed in schools that aren’t appropriate for them and don’t want to go. Who can blame parents who want the best fit for their daughters? It’s definitley not a black and white situation.

  9. Not to undermine the hard work of all the askanim, But seriously wake up we all knew this was going to happen, it happens every year . Just do the math!! They knew how many girls need high schools , they knew how many slots there are , don’t wake up in August trying to fix a major problem!! Who is going to answer for the pain these girls suffered all summer knowing their friends were accepted while they were not !!!

    • Everyone knows the problem. Blaming people is easy, that doesn’t mean there is an easy solution.

      It is definitely a massive problem that there is not enough room, but at some point there is a limit in how often you can just tell each school to “take a few more girls”. Most schools have already added 10 or more girls to already full classes.At some point it in not just about a class being to big to effectively teach, but the physical limitations of how many people can fit in a classroom comes into play.

      Want to start another high school? Then you better have half a million on the bank to cover the costs, and that is assuming that the school is eventually successful. Girls High Schools are not like elementary schools, there is a lot of staffing expenses.

      The problem is severe, I have been a parent in that situation, so I can relate. If there was an easy solution, or any solution for that matter, it would have been taken care of long ago.

      The most obvious solution would be for elementary schools to open their own high schools, but that is a massive financial and administrative responsibility, and not every elementary school has the ability to do that

  10. Nine years ago when my oldest applied to high school, the head of one mossad told us that there were 600 girls in 8th grade that year….and 2400 girls in primary. He told me that in another 9 years, they would have to have quadruple the amount of available slots for high school girls, to service all those girls in primary.

    And that’s where we are now, those primary girls are in 8th grade. The problem is not the existing high schools, that are full to capacity. It’s that the schools have not quadrupled, not enough new high schools have been opened.

    And this doesn’t even address newcomers to Lakewood on top of those who have already been here since primary….

  11. Before people explode and critsize mock .
    take a deep breath and think this
    1)At what speed are people moving into Lakewood and its surrounding towns?
    2)Why dont you open a communal mosad?!, No, you want someone else to , someone else to have to raise tuitions hire staff, buses, lunches and then tell them what to do ,right?!
    3)Fact is there is not enough mosdas for the amount moving in at the rate they are .So maybe tell that to your real estate agent before brainwashing you to move
    4)if you had a choice of 2 kids to accept to your school(which you wont open cause you want someone else to ) one can pay full tuition one cant , be 100% honest who’d you take!

    Bottom line- it is NOT the mosdas and “Lakewoods” fault its the rate of people moving. in very simple! use your brains! do basic research before “screaming”
    thanks

  12. To Mother

    You say that “They knew how many girls need slots” . You are blaming “them ” for not waking up on time and you are blaming ” them ” for the pain of the girls.

    I have a little secret to tell you. There is no ” they” or ” them ” . We have no kehila structure in Lakewood and there is nobody that makes schools unless some private individual becomes crazy and decides to make one . So ” they” and ” them ” is really you . Yell at yourself because there is nobody in town who is giving the millions of dollars necessary to make or expand schools or to help the existing schools pay their teachers .You and everybody else are equally to blame for not doing what you sit back and expect somebody else to do .

  13. This discussion exhausts me mentally and physically, because this issue comes up every year and is never resolved without pointing fingers The simple solution is every owner of a school has to accept an equal amount of the kids that still haven’t found the school but unfortunately there isn’t communication between the schools and the community is the one that separates the most.

    In my humble opinion the only thing that could solve this is Moshiach coming.

    Gossage out

  14. We opened a new high school to fill the need. We fundraised hundreds of thousands of dollars from family, friends and the community. No one wanted to come because we weren’t established. School closed down. End of story.

    There is no way to simplify this. It’s a huge problem on so many levels. And no, the current tzadikim who open and run schools should not be forced to come up with funds to build new buildings to open more classes (they’ve already done this…) and we also can not have 50+ girls in a class. This is a community issue and the community on a whole needs to step up to the plate and pitch in to solve this problem.
    P.s. when we opened our girls high school we worked behind the scenes with many askanim. They work tirelessly on behalf of the community with no pay and no thanks. They are individuals who have devoted their personal time and money to help the situation. They work on this all year. They are not waking up 2 weeks before school starts. They’ve been working on it for months and now 2 weeks before school starts this is where the situation is holding.

  15. There is so much smoke being blown here that obscures the simplest strategy…simple BUT NOT EASY!

    Opening a communal school will never work because of our “Dumping School” problem. The existing schools will clamor for the cream of the crop->whats left gets dumped in community school-> no one wants to send to community school (THATS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US-NOT THE SCHOOLS ONLY).

    Solution-NOT EASY but simple

    Every existing school should be under one umbrella system with regards to placements for incoming classes.

    There should be a centralized funding system which will assist schools in building extensions, hiring teachers so on and so forth.

    Unfortunately, there will be a VERY select few schools who will resist this out of sheer gaiva. there needs to be an enforcement vaad

    DO NOT DARE COMMENT THAT THERE ISNT ENOUGH MONEY OR CAPABLE PEOPLE WHO CAN STRATEGIZE A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THIS. IT IS ONLY A LACK OF WILL.

    JUST PREEMPTING THE “SO YOU DO IT” COMMENTS…SOMEONE WITH FINANCIAL INDEPENDANCE NEEDS TO UNDERTAKE THIS AS THE “SELECT FEW” SCHOOLS WILL MERCILLESLY CRUSH ANYONE WEAKER THAN THEM TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

    AS FOR ENFORCEMENT…AGAIN ONLY WILL IS LACKING. IF THE PREDOMINANT FEELING IN LAKEWOOD WAS TO CHANGE, THEN IT WOULD AND OUR POSKIM, ROSHEI YESHIVA AND ASKANIM WOULD NOT LIVE IN FEAR TO ACT ON THIS ISSUE.

    I’m sorry for the emotion. My daughter went through this. I am personally witnessing girsl dying from the inside out which is worse because you cant see that change needs to be made. if they are dressed right and comply, we assume that will remain so after they leave the system…they dont

    Until Next Year…or hopefully not.

  16. For all the parents who don’t want to send their children to a new school in its first year, remember:

    There was once a time when BMG was new as well.

  17. Is Bnos Melech the only elementary school that has its own continuing high school? Why can’t the other elementary schools start making their own high schools and avoid this whole acceptance game?

  18. My daughter is coming from lakewood school and we have been living in this town for 20 years . She can’t even get an interview let alone an acceptance and she is a straight A student and I learn in kollel but can easily afford the tuition .

    2 things need to happen . One, the current elementary schools need to be given 12/24 months notice that their children won’t be allowed on the Vaad list unless they open their own high school( Bais faige/Bnos devorah/tehillas Chaya Sara and other large schools dont have a high School and that puts massive strain on the system . The second thing that needs to happen is that a family must be living in lakewood for two years before they can get on the vaad list and schools should fill the slots with lakewood families first before they even look at people moving in from out of town .

    There is more than enough money for BF and BD and others to open a high school after all the covid testing and food box money and the millions in Tzedaka given out every year in this city and people won’t hesitate to go to a “new school ” if its being open by an established elementary school .

    The vaad is doing an incredible job with resources they have but its numbers game and they are on the short end of that.

  19. I have 2 children in high school. My daughter missed months of schooling and suffered tremendously when stuck in a place without friends, in a poor fit.

    There needs to be a centralized system, dividing the high schools by their families/ hashkafa, then placing girls. They can oversee if a school can add another teacher, or perhaps start a new school and pull a willing teacher or two to guarantee a good start.

    As a bonus, perhaps sending to the closest match can alleviate the 50 minutes it takes to get there in the morning.

  20. It’s not a profitable business like girls elementary schools.

    There’s not enough Kovod like in a boys high school.

    There’s not enough hope for future kovod like a boys elementary school. (Hope to expand to high school)

    So there’s only a few ppl who open girls high schools for nothing other than the benefit of the town and all they get is bashed on the scoop comments for being the only ppl doing what nobody else wants to do.

  21. I’ve lived in Lkwd for well over 22 years. My first year living here we got mailed a flyer about the “school crisis”. There wasn’t enough space then either. 22 years this is going on (at least) and so far there hasn’t been a viable solution from some of the countries most intelligent frum community leaders. As a Chizuk to any mother who is thing thru this (and I am currently still waiting to be accepted to elementary school for my 5 1/2 yr old!), my oldest went thru this too for elementary and high school. She is now married to a big mentch and learned boy and living out of town…so the school system which is currently designed to break down girls emotionally can really build a girl up with the right hashgafa. You all tell your girls that even though they should be respectful and listen to what they are being taught in school, it is not going to be practiced out in the world and they are going to face obstacles in their lives that will not make sense to them. So looking at those obstacles, they can choose if it will break them or make them understand that we need to put in real effort to make the world better. We as a community are failing our children. We don’t speak honestly to our children about the nisyonos we are all going to face. And that is why girls are home crying themselves to sleep all summer. Tell them the truth, the system we use is broken and wrong and this will be a bump in the road that will mean absolutely nothing once they graduate and go into shidduchim. Let the burden of the hurt and pain fall onto the parents where it belongs. I don’t claim to have the solution to the core issue, but I have been able to pull my kids thru the rejection somewhat by pointing out us silly adults have decided to handle this in a very dumb way…22 years doing the same thing and it doesn’t work yet nothing changes…its the definition of insanity.

  22. @TreeInTheForest let me enlighten you. Unless your grandfather or father was a Talmid of Reb Ahron, you and your contemporaries are “immigrants” to Lakewood. So please don’t reference all the newcomers As the reason the schools have no room. Lakewood continues to grow and stay vibrant is because of the continuing new blood that comes to the town. Unless you are suggesting that Lakewood shut its gates and forbids “newcomers” who settle in town even after they’ve left yeshiva. What do you think happened just 2 or 3 generations back when BH, in the post War era our families began growing KAH exponentially? You never heard that children, in mass numbers, had no school to go to because there was no room. Room was made. Classes were added. Yes….it was difficult financially. The burden was on the schools, on the parents through tuitions and building funds, on the askanim…and yes…sometimes schools ran on a deficit. But never were the children the karbanos because of hands thrown up to the air that “Sorry…there is absolutely no room”. On the contrary, the education and future of this new dor, took precedence as a testament to our survival. Sadly, by your comments, these 90 unplaced children seem to be no ones precedent. Let me tell you…they are everyone’s priority. So before people stake out the charging stations for their Tesla’s, price out salt water pools and Koi ponds, know that the future is in these holy children, who’s future is being toyed with.

  23. He Brooklyn Bubby.
    There are going to be an additional 200 or 300 girls next year in 8th grade so instead of 1500 we will have 1700 or 1800 that need high schools that don’t exist yet.
    What are you doing about that to make sure they will have a school ? You know already now that there will be no place for some of them. ? Or is your job limited to blogging here and telling others how bad they are ?

  24. To Brooklyn Bubby. It’s okay to keep all schools closed & causing loss of parnassa to the teachers because some girls don’t have a school to attend?
    Time to ignore/disregard Bubby & Just me. They’re both selfish.

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