Dashcam Video: Watch as Driver Disregards School Bus’s Flashing Lights

Watch as a driver goes around a school bus dropping off a student in Lakewood.

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Fred
3 years ago

It would be useful if people took these dashcam videos to the police.

Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

The bus should not put on lights if the students are not crossing the street. If the law states that they should, the law should be changed.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

UM…. The LAW is The boys is to put their flashers ON when picking up or dropping off kids!! And EVERYONE (BOTH SIDES) is supposed to STOP!!

Jojo
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Bus**

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

JoJo, as I said, there is no need for such, if they are not crossing. The law should be changed. There is no logical reason to stop traffic if they are not crossing the street.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

AND as I said…. WHETHER CROSSING OR NOT… the lights are supposed to be flashing…. RED MEANS STOP!! Wtf are you even talking about?! No laws need to be changed because you said it needs to be!! This has been a law since before you were born!! It’s in the Driver’s Manual that you were supposed to study before taking your Written Test and your Road Test!! You probably just paid for your license!! Now I know WHO to say away from when I drive!! I follow the rules!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

You don’t know when I was born! Why are you accusing me of paying for my license. Enough with the nivul peh.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

whether crossing or NOT, the LAW is that NO ONE is supposed to pass a Stopped School Bus picking up or dropping off kids. And their LIGHTS ARE SUPPOSED TO FLASH to let the cats know that is are coming on or off the bus!! What are you even talking about?!

Jojo
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Cars**

Tony Repp
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

I agree

דעת תורה
3 years ago

Ploni Almoni, it’s good you’re anonymous. Your suggestion is ridiculous. The driver should ask the students at every stop if they’re crossing or not???

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  דעת תורה
3 years ago

No, a driver who drives a route every day knows where the boys go. And I am glad you think it’s ok to claim the mantle of Daas Torah, while also remaining anonymous.

TheConsultant
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

What stupidity, you expect every driver to keep track of all 40+ kids which side of the street they are going to, all you need is for them to forget once and you’ll have children’s bodies littering the streets.

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  TheConsultant
3 years ago

When they’ve been doing it for the last few months day in day out, it doesn’t take so much brainpower to remember. You give our bus drivers way too little credit.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

And it doesn’t take ANY brainpower to KNOW that you’re supposed to STOP when a School Bus is picking up or dropping off kids…. WHETHER THEY’RE CROSSING THE STREET OR NOT!!

HoisenTragers
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Uh, Ploni Almoni is just as anonymous as Daas Torah.

Wouldn’t you think?

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  HoisenTragers
3 years ago

Yes, but he attacked me first for being anonymous.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Whether they do or not, and if they did… They still need to turn ON their FLASHERS. BOTH SIDES of the road is supposed to STOP!!

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Like I said… The law was there way before you were born!! And like I said you probably paid for your license. Because obviously you don’t know how to follow the law!! (And that’s not being offensive in ANY WAY.) Because I know alot of purple who don’t have licenses and don’t know how to drive!!

HoisenTragers
Reply to  דעת תורה
3 years ago

Zactly

Why? Why? Why?
3 years ago

We’re supposed to be Dan l’kaf zichus everyone but how can we in situations like these?!

Someone told me that when we can’t think of a possible way to be Dan l’kaf zichus we should daven that these people change their ways or thank Hashem that you are not like them.

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Why? Why? Why?
3 years ago

You want to be dan lkaf zichus? Maybe they had a medical emergency.

Seriously
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

If you’re trying to justify breaking the law and passing a stopped school bus by saying it was a “medical emergency”, just think for a second about the absurdity of that excuse. You can cause tens of medical emergencies with such behavior, chas vesholom.

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Seriously
3 years ago

Not if they aren’t crossing the street.

CommunityMember
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

It does not matter if the kids stand on the sidewalk for an hour, it is ILLEGAL to pass a school bus with flashing lights! What is wrong with you, honestly???

Suggestion
3 years ago

If so, they should indicate in some type of way that that is the case. Honk their horn, flash their lights, yell out the window…. Something to show why they are causing almost another medical emergency!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Suggestion
3 years ago

There won’t be another medical emergency if the students aren’t crossing the street

Mel
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Pioni, If it’s a medical emergency, they should be in an ambulance. Nothing you have said makes any sense. Everyone is in a rush. You can wait a minute or so for the bus to move.

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Mel
3 years ago

Mel, He was trying to be dan lkaf zchus. Maybe the medical emergency just happened in the car a couple moments earlier.

Jojo
Reply to  Mel
3 years ago

EXACTLY.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

(moderated) Wait until one of your kids is getting off the bus and see what happens when someone passes the School Bus flashing their lights!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Thank you LakewoodScoop for moderating the nivul peh. I am not sure why jojo is trying to curse my children

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

No one is trying to curse anyone!! I just said since you said they shouldn’t be on if the kids are not crossing the street…. What if something happens to one of your kids or anyone else’s kids for that matter… then what are you gonna say?! The law has been around since before you were born… and you CANNOT change the law because you did NOT make the law!! No matter how you feel about it!! The lights are SUPPOSED TO FLASH WHETHER CROSSING THE STREET OR NOT!! AND IT IS ILLEGAL TO PASS SHEFF THE BUS IS STOPPED!!

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

No one has a FOUL MOUTH curtains anyone’s kids!! You’re the one that said they shouldn’t flash the lights if the kids aren’t crossing the streets. You’re the one cursing the children. (The ones that get hit by cars ILLEGALLY passing a School Bus!!). Because you say they shouldn’t have their flashers on if they’re not crossing the streets.

Zussman
3 years ago

The reason All vehicles Must stop ALL SIDES is because there have been times when a child ran across the wrong way than he was supposed to so since you can’t predict that All SIDES MUST STOP!
I hope you fully understand now!

Yochy
3 years ago

I have been going to numerous medical emergencies and broke every law while driving. One law I didn’t break was passing a school bus with its lights on.

Red light? Yes. You can stop and see if cars are coming and then proceed. A 4-way stop sign, if you are careful, you can see beforehand if other vehicles are coming. But passing a bus with its lights on, you never know what a child would do.

The law is that even if a bus puts its lights on where there are four lanes, you must stop in all four lanes!!! It makes sense to me.

Outsider looking in
Reply to  Yochy
3 years ago

?. Would that be the law in New York State, too? Bus w/arm out at a 4 way stop sign. I would love to know.

Outsider looking in
Reply to  Outsider looking in
3 years ago

My error. I read wrong.

Jojo
3 years ago

There is NO excuse for passing a Stopped School Bus!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

I see you are very passionate jojo! But you haven’t added any explanation. You just state as a fact that there is no excuse. At least other comenters responded with reasons why, like never knowing what a child will do, or the bus drivers not being to be able to remember where they go. Please help have a useful discussion, with arguments and reasons, and not only the passion.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Like I said!! BOTH SIDES are supposed to STOP when a School Bus has its flashers on. Whether the child is crossing the street or NOT. Your excuses are pitiful and pathetic. You need to stay off the road!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

You need to calm down. and you still haven’t given even one reason why my arguments are pitiful or pathetic. Just your caps lock seems to have been left on

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

I don’t need to calm down. You’re the one who doesn’t know the law!! I’ve given MANY reasons!! You’re just too stubborn and pitiful and pathetic to UNDERSTAND it!! Your arguments are pitiful and pathetic because IT’S THE LAW!! You CANNOT change what you did NOT make!!

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

ALL CARS MUST STOP!! WHETHER THE KIDS ARE CROSSING OR NOT!! IT’S THE LAW AND IT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT SHOULD BE CHANGED DOESN’T MEAN IT CAN OR WILL!! THE LAW IS THERE FOR A REASON!! ABIDE BY IT!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

I do abide by it. I’m just discussing whether the law is flawed. Turn off your cap locks it’s hurting my eyes.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Obviously you DON’T!! The law is NOT flawed!! You’re the one who’s flawed because you want something that you CANNOT have or CHANGE because you don’t like it!! Your pathetic excuses are hurting my eyes!!

CommunityMember
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

ITS ILLEGAL, the explanation is that ITS AGAINST THE LAW.

Jojo
Reply to  CommunityMember
3 years ago

Obviously He wants to make his own law!! I’ll make sure to not to let my kids off the bus when he’s on the road.

Ploni SAlmoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

You don’t know where I drive, so you’ll have to keep your kids off the road all the time. As I have said countless times I don’t want to make my own law, and I abide by the law. I just am discussing the logic behind the law. Thank you for turning off your caps lock

Jojo
Reply to  CommunityMember
3 years ago

Thank you. He doesn’t seem to understand that he CANNOT change the law that he did NOT make!! Whether he likes it or not!! I’ll make sure my kids aren’t getting off a bus if he’s driving anywhere near the bus.

ben
3 years ago

And if Ploni”s child got hit by some one passing a bus he would be screaming like hell about the law and looking to sue EVERY BODY7

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  ben
3 years ago

My child wouldn’t cross if the lights weren’t on because the driver would still be put them on when children are crossing. And no I wouldn’t be screaming with nivul peh. Suing doesn’t help anything, money doesn’t help when an accident happens.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Duh!! They are supposed to be on WHETHER OR NOT they are crossing the street!! What don’t you understand?! Let’s see when the bus drips off your kid on your side of the road and someone passes the bus. Because you decided it’s not supposed to have their flashing lights on!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Jojo It doesn’t bother me if my kids get off on my side and don’t cross the street, and someone else passes the bus. I’m not a policeman

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

Well if your child gets off a bus WITH FLASHERS ON and a car ILLEGALLY passes it and hits your kids or any other kids for that matter…. then what will you do?!

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

There is NO logic behind the law that you’re pathetic excuses are!! The ONLY logic is DO NOT PASS A STOPPED SCHOOL BUS!!

Jojo
Reply to  ben
3 years ago

THANK YOU!!

Jojo
Reply to  ben
3 years ago

EXACTLY

ben
3 years ago

And if Ploni”s child got hit by some one passing a bus he would be screaming like hell about the law and looking to sue EVERY BODY

Jojo
Reply to  ben
3 years ago

Exactly!!

Ellsworth Moore, Jr.
3 years ago

Wow! someone needs to reapply for a drivers license.
Also the meaning of the word Law and it pertains to everyone.

Jojo
Reply to  Ellsworth Moore, Jr.
3 years ago

THANK YOU

Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

To all those who keep on reemphasizing that it is the law. I know that it is the law. and there is no need for me to reapply for a driver’s license. I don’t proceed when the lights are on. But I am discussing whether the law should be reconsidered.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

It should NOT be reconsidered!! It is the LAW!! Whether crossing the street or not!! You CANNOT change it because you don’t like it!! It’s there for a reason!! Obviously you DON’T know it’s the law if you keep saying they’re not supposed to be on…(only when crossing!!). BS!! It was there way before you were born!!

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Why can’t we get the law changed? I already requested you stop with the nivul peh. Again you don’t know when I was born.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

It does NOT need to be changed. What part of that do you NOT understand!! Just because you don’t like it!! You are REALLY pathetic!! No one is FOUL MOUTHING you or anything else!! You just like to select on stupidity!! And like I said. It’s been around since before you were born!!

Jojo
Reply to  Jojo
3 years ago

Deflect**

Jon K.
3 years ago

If you cannot protect children by stopping for their safety, then you shouldn’t have a license or drive an automobile. Period.

You’re assuming that there are competent and disciplined people driving the bus or in general, but the more I witness the public-at-large, the more I’m disappointed that they don’t even stop at stop signs or pedestrian crossings when there are people using them.

Sorry, Ploni- you’re wrong.

Ploni Almoni
Reply to  Jon K.
3 years ago

I am sorry Jon K. that you have so little faith in humanity.

Jojo
Reply to  Ploni Almoni
3 years ago

You’re the one who has little faith in humanity. You’re the one that wants a LAW that has been around since before you were born changed because you don’t like it!!

Jojo
Reply to  Jon K.
3 years ago

He wants to change something that has been around since before he was born. Because he doesn’t like it. He doesn’t seem to understand that the LAW is there for a REASON. Whether he likes it or not!! I abide by the law. Obviously he doesn’t!!

Sara
3 years ago

Ploni would you do what that car did? If you wouldn’t but are only asking why they don’t change the law then this isn’t the right place for that. There’s a law protecting our precious children. If you want to know why shooting past a stopped bus is a bad idea, since bus drivers including substitute drivers and regular humans with other things on their minds might make mistakes then ask it somewhere else.

Jojo
Reply to  Sara
3 years ago

He is probably one of those that passes a School Bus. I wouldn’t want any of my kids coming off a bus when he’s on the road. He wants to change a law that’s been around since before he was born. A law that he NEVER wrote!! A law that is there for a REASON!!